@stardust_particles said:

@jenx42 said:

That's a really interesting take, on both scenarios. My husband had an interesting "shoulda did" ending too. They would take turned sleeping for six months at a time while spending six months together in between. Buying them 45 years and making them able to at least see Homestead 2 and possibly have a few good years there. I tell you one thing, her book would have been better if that's what they did, even if it took 90 years to get published.

Imagine if she goes crazy somewhere along the line and starts waking Jim up after just 2 weeks of sleeping, but saying it's been 6 months.

LOL!!!

@jenx42 said:

@richbordoni said:

@jenx42 said:

@Master_YODA said:

I really liked the first 2/3 of the movie. I wasn´t expecting the whole moral dilemma of Jim´s and Auroras relationship. That was great!

But then came the perfect Hollywood Ending. He saves everybody and she chooses by free will to stay with him - pretty lame.

What I would have preferred:

1) (small change) As mentioned in the movie, putting somebody to hibernation requires a complicated medical procedure. So the pod seemed like a deus-ex-machina.

They should have left that option out and give the end a dark shadow.

Jim and her saved everybody - but she had no option to go back to sleep. She HAS to stay.

It would be a morally more ambiguous ending.

2) (big change) (read something similar in a thread)

Jim dies saving everybody. Aurora is all alone. We get a sequence with Aurora mirroring Jim´s phases of being alone. Film ends with her waking somebody up. End.

Still a 7 out of 10 for me.

That's a really interesting take, on both scenarios. My husband had an interesting "shoulda did" ending too. They would take turned sleeping for six months at a time while spending six months together in between. Buying them 45 years and making them able to at least see Homestead 2 and possibly have a few good years there. I tell you one thing, her book would have been better if that's what they did, even if it took 90 years to get published.

Never thought of that! Would've been an awesome idea!

Yeah, it makes me wish movies made multiple endings sometimes. Like those choose your own adventure books.

Who knows... Perhaps someone is making a movie like that as we speak.

I do like your 2nd ending. I actually don't hate the original script ending either. I did wonder how they could repopulate without going incest-style. Having eggs/sperm in cold storage seems reasonable.

i've struggled with this film. like many others who only saw the trailer i did not realise that jim deliberately woke aurora up. i just disengaged at that point. that is such a repulsive, sociopathic thing to do; i found i could no longer relate to what was going on. so i read the plot summary on wikipedia, found out that aurora chooses to stay with jim despite his violation of her body, and stopped watching after about 45 minutes. to each their own and i'm glad some people enjoyed it, i found the plot to be in very poor taste and it just did not work for me.

@MrsBuckyBarnes said:

i've struggled with this film. like many others who only saw the trailer i did not realise that jim deliberately woke aurora up. i just disengaged at that point. that is such a repulsive, sociopathic thing to do; i found i could no longer relate to what was going on. so i read the plot summary on wikipedia, found out that aurora chooses to stay with jim despite his violation of her body, and stopped watching after about 45 minutes. to each their own and i'm glad some people enjoyed it, i found the plot to be in very poor taste and it just did not work for me.

Do a little reading on the mental affects of being isolated, then you might be able to watch the rest of this film with the understanding that he was in fact mentally altered. In my opinion that's not poor taste, it's just factual in nature.

absolutely! either one of those alternative endings would have been interesting.

I like your second idea a lot.

When the film ended in the overgrown jungle in the main promenade I couldn't help thinking that there were probably 2nd gen inbred feral children living in there somewhere... it could make for bonkers sequel: the crew have 2 weeks before they make landfall - all they have to do is survive... This Ship Has Eyes.

so close to being a thought provoking and memorable film, but they copped out at the end for some reason...

i would have loved an open ended ending, something for the audience to dwell on and discuss, but in a way that would point to more thought rather then just would she choose him or not, or did they die or not, and such...

@Joe79 said:

I like your second idea a lot.

When the film ended in the overgrown jungle in the main promenade I couldn't help thinking that there were probably 2nd gen inbred feral children living in there somewhere... it could make for bonkers sequel: the crew have 2 weeks before they make landfall - all they have to do is survive... This Ship Has Eyes.

I was hoping for some offspring as well, except along these lines.

Jim and Aurora spend a couple weeks thinking, 'You know, now that we've decided to man this ship to its destination and live out our lives here, why not have some children? Who would they have relationships with? OK...yeah...we do our research on the passengers, wake up some potential couples, blame it on the disaster, never tell them the truth, and destroy that damn robot.'

@jenx42 said:

@MrsBuckyBarnes said:

i've struggled with this film. like many others who only saw the trailer i did not realise that jim deliberately woke aurora up. i just disengaged at that point. that is such a repulsive, sociopathic thing to do; i found i could no longer relate to what was going on. so i read the plot summary on wikipedia, found out that aurora chooses to stay with jim despite his violation of her body, and stopped watching after about 45 minutes. to each their own and i'm glad some people enjoyed it, i found the plot to be in very poor taste and it just did not work for me.

Do a little reading on the mental affects of being isolated, then you might be able to watch the rest of this film with the understanding that he was in fact mentally altered. In my opinion that's not poor taste, it's just factual in nature.

my my...how condescending. since you have assumed that my emotional response is tantamount to ignorance, it would probably surprise you to know that a) i am a mental health professional of many years experience, and b) it is possible to understand the rationale for an action but still be troubled by it. i will respectfully disagree with your assertion that jim's actions are "factual in nature", because there are many variables that will influence how any given individual will respond to prolonged loneliness, such as age, gender, life experience, etc. nor do i think it is "factual in nature" that a healthy woman will fall in love with someone that has violated her.

@MrsBuckyBarnes said:

@jenx42 said:

@MrsBuckyBarnes said:

i've struggled with this film. like many others who only saw the trailer i did not realise that jim deliberately woke aurora up. i just disengaged at that point. that is such a repulsive, sociopathic thing to do; i found i could no longer relate to what was going on. so i read the plot summary on wikipedia, found out that aurora chooses to stay with jim despite his violation of her body, and stopped watching after about 45 minutes. to each their own and i'm glad some people enjoyed it, i found the plot to be in very poor taste and it just did not work for me.

Do a little reading on the mental affects of being isolated, then you might be able to watch the rest of this film with the understanding that he was in fact mentally altered. In my opinion that's not poor taste, it's just factual in nature.

my my...how condescending. since you have assumed that my emotional response is tantamount to ignorance, it would probably surprise you to know that a) i am a mental health professional of many years experience, and b) it is possible to understand the rationale for an action but still be troubled by it. i will respectfully disagree with your assertion that jim's actions are "factual in nature", because there are many variables that will influence how any given individual will respond to prolonged loneliness, such as age, gender, life experience, etc. nor do i think it is "factual in nature" that a healthy woman will fall in love with someone that has violated her.

Stockholm Syndrome?

Wow Master_Yoda! That was good. The second one, where Jim dies and Aurora wakes someone up. Even just imagining it is giving me goosebumps. Very good idea!

@Master_YODA said:

I really liked the first 2/3 of the movie. I wasn´t expecting the whole moral dilemma of Jim´s and Auroras relationship. That was great!

But then came the perfect Hollywood Ending. He saves everybody and she chooses by free will to stay with him - pretty lame.

What I would have preferred:

1) (small change) As mentioned in the movie, putting somebody to hibernation requires a complicated medical procedure. So the pod seemed like a deus-ex-machina.

They should have left that option out and give the end a dark shadow.

Jim and her saved everybody - but she had no option to go back to sleep. She HAS to stay.

It would be a morally more ambiguous ending.

2) (big change) (read something similar in a thread)

Jim dies saving everybody. Aurora is all alone. We get a sequence with Aurora mirroring Jim´s phases of being alone. Film ends with her waking somebody up. End.

Still a 7 out of 10 for me.

I like the second end best but in my ending we wont really know what she desides to do.

"First, jim dies after he is blow out in space from the generator venting. She retrives his body and we get to see her lay him to rest. (Space funural). Like 2-3 years passes and we jump to the very ending of the story. Aurora walks into the bar with a worried look and orders a drink. What troubles you young lady?, Athur says. I don't know how to read all this correctly, she replies. After that she puts the manual for the lifepods (The same Jim originally uses) down on the bardisk. END!"

It's enuff for me to know that she is thinking of the same dilemma he was.. Weather she goes though with it should remain a mystery in my book :)

@MrsBuckyBarnes said:

i've struggled with this film. like many others who only saw the trailer i did not realise that jim deliberately woke aurora up. i just disengaged at that point. that is such a repulsive, sociopathic thing to do; i found i could no longer relate to what was going on. so i read the plot summary on wikipedia, found out that aurora chooses to stay with jim despite his violation of her body, and stopped watching after about 45 minutes. to each their own and i'm glad some people enjoyed it, i found the plot to be in very poor taste and it just did not work for me.

Regardless of how we feel about what he did, the story as it happened in the movie, shows us that ultimately she not only forgave him for taking away the life she planned for herself, but she thanked him; accepting that what Jim did was right for her as she couldn't imagine any other life than with him. Because she loved him more than she loved herself. True love, sacrificial love. We can try to say he manipulated her and what not, but she still had agency, she was independent and she chose of her own free will to stay with him. Aurora listened to the advice of her best friend who said, "I hope you finally finds someone who fills your heart and I hope you let him in." Jim was that someone; he filled her heart and she let him in. When before all she could care about was herself, her own life, her own adventure - till she discovered Jim.

@Verfed said:

@MrsBuckyBarnes said:

i've struggled with this film. like many others who only saw the trailer i did not realise that jim deliberately woke aurora up. i just disengaged at that point. that is such a repulsive, sociopathic thing to do; i found i could no longer relate to what was going on. so i read the plot summary on wikipedia, found out that aurora chooses to stay with jim despite his violation of her body, and stopped watching after about 45 minutes. to each their own and i'm glad some people enjoyed it, i found the plot to be in very poor taste and it just did not work for me.

Regardless of how we feel about what he did, the story as it happened in the movie, shows us that ultimately she not only forgave him for taking away the life she planned for herself, but she thanked him; accepting that what Jim did was right for her as she couldn't imagine any other life than with him. Because she loved him more than she loved herself. True love, sacrificial love. We can try to say he manipulated her and what not, but she still had agency, she was independent and she chose of her own free will to stay with him. Aurora listened to the advice of her best friend who said, "I hope you finally finds someone who fills your heart and I hope you let him in." Jim was that someone; he filled her heart and she let him in. When before all she could care about was herself, her own life, her own adventure - till she discovered Jim.

Best thing I've read this far in this thread, and absolutely true, for those who actually watched the movie.