Changing the past can be good or bad. In the "Terminator" franchise it was good and bad. In the "Back to the Future" franchise it was good for the protagonists: Marty and his family had a better life and the Doc got married. In "Star Trek: Picard" the Federation and the Borg will become allies one day.

In "The Flash", well, Barry got his father out of prison, and the world isn't as bad off as the first time when he tried to save his mother.

Ezra Miller will probably not return in the DCU, or does he know Jennifer?

@aholejones said:

I mean that seemed to be the big message of the movie and in the end he (Flash) realizes what a clusterf*ck situation he has created and once again goes back in time to prevent himself from changing history. Only this time he still changes the events by talking to his mom in the store and doing some changes that lead to the acquittal of his father. So he learnt his lesson except he didn't learn anything and the viewer is left there thinking now why did I waste two+ hours of my life watching this. Anyways the movie has its' moments, but those are shortlived and I'm mainly talking about Michael Keaton's parts and those amount to, what, maybe 10-15 minutes in the movie. The rest of the movie is largely watching the terribly unfunny Ezra Miller do "comedy" and it falls flat like it did in the previous movies. Only this time it's made even worse by the fact that there are two of him. Whoever thought it was a good idea to build a two hour movie around a completely unfunny character doing cringeworthy comedy that barely belongs in the open mic session of your local pub.

aholejones--

It is true that The Flash accomplished some good things by going back in time, like getting his father out of prison, but he also was not able to save his mother-- not without doing terrible damage to the timeline, at least --so he did learn a lesson there, and did not get everything he wanted. I just saw this film for the second time last night, and I think it is much better than many give it credit for; in this film, in the alternate timeline, we see a terribly depressing alternate history, where in the end, General Zod wins; there are very few superheros in that timeline, and the ones who do exist-- Batman, Supergirl, and baby Superman (off-screen) --are all killed. Supergirl's death was particularly disturbing, almost like a rape-murder. I've alluded to this in another post, but I thought Sasha Calle's acting in all of her scenes was excellent (within the context of a Superhero comic-book movie); I really liked her as Supergirl.

I thought, for a Superhero movie (a genre I usually dislike, with a very few exceptions), that The Flash (2023) was surpisingly bold; I'd give it a 6 or a 7 out of 10.