In the original film, Ripley learns from MOTHER, the A.I. program that runs communications for the ship, that the orders from the company they work for is to bring back the alien for further study even if it means killing the rest of the crew. When Ash tried to murder her, this was at the behest of his programmers. He didn't "malfunction" as Burke said to Bishop. He did exactly what he was programmed to do. Ripley even acknowledges this fact when she reacts to Burke's statement by saying, "Malfunctioned?!" . So why would Ripley accept a job from a company that was willing to kill you? You lost your life with your daughter to boot because of them and then you decide to "Ah well, into the fray once again." ? Seems highly unlikely.
Alien (1979) - 8 outta 10 stars
Aliens (1986) - 8 outta 10 stars
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Reply by rooprect
on September 15, 2023 at 11:55 PM
Good point, I never really thought about her motivations. From what I remember, Aliens reframes the story putting Ripley on a vendetta to destroy the creatures. Whereas you'd think her real enemy was the company that sent her to die. Kinda like if a company abandons you at the bottom of the ocean fighting giant sharks and you somehow survive, it would make more sense to go after the company, not dive back to the bottom of the ocean to fight more sharks!
Also if I'm not mistaken, she falls for THE SAME RUSE, this time with the Paul Riser character being the 'Bishop' character who betrays the team. Even though it's an exciting movie with tons of great action, atmosphere & special effects, I think the writers really sleepwalked thru this one.
Reply by tmdb12467608
on September 16, 2023 at 12:09 AM
Ahhh well, women can be irrational people, can't they?!?
I'm only kidding, but seriously, that could be perceived as a plothole, even if Ellen took the job because she needed the catharsis of facing the xenomorphs again.
Reply by movie_nazi
on September 16, 2023 at 12:43 AM
Actually, that is the weak excuse that Cameron mustered up for Ripley to go back which is shown by the nightmares she keeps having. I am watching the extended cut now and they really seem to try and hammer home this point. She feels she needs to face her fears or suffer these nightmares for the rest of her life. Pretty lame IMO.
Reply by Lars Wadefalk
on June 12, 2024 at 6:37 AM
I think there were two reasons, hypothetical of course. She was more or less decommissioned of her job as a flight officer, degraded into being nothing. Obviously she was good at her job and liked it. Salary? Or even saw her life as it seemed thereafter on earth, working with the shitty loaders (even if one saved her in the end). Then, she also knew the possibility of other people dying from the xeonomorphs, scary as they were in her even recent memory (frozen but newly awakened) she wanted to help those people and destroy the xeonomorphs. Destroy them because if she wouldn't be there as a "consultant", they would also present a threat to earth, and of course in the end to her. She understood that part in the extension of it, since noone at the station took her story as the serious threat it was. It was never anything about working for the company. It was about survival.
There was a big chance that she would be betrayed again by the Ai and company, but she had only the option to throw the dice.
It proved she was let down again by the company (Burke), but not the Ai (Bishop).
I am not gonna comment on Alien 3 or 4, because those movies don't exist in my mind. Not the things created after either, well see what Romulus will give us.
Reply by movie_nazi
on June 12, 2024 at 8:02 AM
Yes, I can accept that she just did out of the sheer sense of duty to humanity that these things must be destoryed at all costs. Even if it meant possibly losing her life.
I'm with ya 1000% 🤣 What a complete travesty this francise became. Only the first two films are worthy of recognition. Even the new series is terrible.