I'm following up on an issue I reported for the movie Prey about a year ago. Prey is a movie in which Comanche is spoken quite heavily, with it even having a full Comanche language dub. However, the only listed languages are English and French, as Comanche isn't included in ISO 639-1, which is the language standard this site uses. I was linked to a discussion which is now over ten years old, wherein an admin expressed that no new language options would be considered. If this is not the most up to date statement on this issue, I apologize, but it's what I was told by a moderator.
I really do think this topic is worth revisiting, especially as it's clearly come up multiple times in the decade since this was stated. Such a viewpoint is limiting at best, and at worst discriminatory towards many, many foreign language films. In particular, films with native or aboriginal dialects, as these were languages simply not considered worth including when the standard first came into being in 1967 (I understand it has been updated since, but not in the past 20 years). As filmmakers and the film industry continue to grow in previously underrepresented communities, these languages will only increase in use. It's not a good look when a film uses majority or entirely native languages in its dialogue and the only way this can be reflected on this website is by tagging the film with a language spoken by colonizers of that group/people. This is especially worth considering because other sites used TMDb for data, and perpetuate this misinformation. A move towards ISO 639-2 or ISO 639-3 needs to at least be discussed in order to remain equitable and relevant.
As a sidenote: Cantonese is not in ISO 639-1 standards (as far as I'm aware). However, this website has a separate tag for Mandarin (Chinese) and Cantonese. I'm not sure why this is, but it appears inconsistent with the stated intent of not updating language options.
Thank you for reading! I hope this will generate some discussion and I look forward to hearing the thoughts of website members and staff.
Edit: I realize this post could not be more relevant, as the new Martin Scorsese film Killers of the Flower Moon cannot appropriately be tagged with the Osage language.
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Reply by Travis Bell
on October 19, 2023 at 6:25 AM
Hey @Pengy, I don't disagree with anything you've mentioned here it's just a simple lack of resources. We're a tiny team of 3 engineers.
Migrating ISO standards on TMDB is going to be months of work. ISO-639-1 is bound to almost every object in our database and almost every single request on both the website and API would need to have some kind of a migration path. Of all the things in our backlog, I can't think of anything else that would come close to the effort required to pull this off.
Right now, we're focused on trying to get some things launched and off of our backlog. I've been working towards getting to this point in time for years. Many of these things have been on our backlog for 5+ years and as we start to clear it out a bit, hopefully we can focus on a project like this.
Reply by Pengy
on October 19, 2023 at 7:50 AM
Thank you for reading. It's disappointing to know that this issue has come up many times in the past couple of years and is still not on the short-or-long-term roadmap for the site.
Reply by rosiepyvr
on January 13, 2025 at 5:48 AM
Would it be possible to at least add "Indigenous" as a language option, so that a movie that is entirely in an Indigenous language that TMDB doesn't support doesn't show up incorrectly as being in English because that's the default?
Reply by SmolderingSpeck
on March 3, 2025 at 11:52 PM
Any change on the site's policy here? It's been 16 months so I am just curious if there is any less of a backlog of projects, as Travis Bell described aiming for when this was last discussed. I understand this would be a huge undertaking, but it would be nice if this could project could at least become a planned update.
Reply by Travis Bell
on March 4, 2025 at 12:05 AM
We’re down to just two people now so we don’t have much time for new features.
This won’t be happening this year. We’ll have to wait and see what 2026 holds.
Reply by SmolderingSpeck
on March 4, 2025 at 12:07 AM
Thank you for the quick response!