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Currently rewatching the show for the first time since it stopped airing. It's quite nice to watch it and not have to wait a week, a month etc for a new episode. Because I'd only ever seen each episode once it's like I'm watching the show for the first time. Peter Bishop has got to be one of my favorite tv characters. He's hilarious. Watching S01E12 right now. I heard Netflix removed it, luckily I always buy my favorite shows on bluray (or DVD) once they have finished. Nothing better than owning your own physical copy.

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@felixxx999 said:

Season 5 is... something. Last night I watched an episode about a village of historians with bark growing on their skin. The show all of a sudden is like a spin off of Stargate. And it's so creepy to have the grown daughter as a regular cast member and she looks just like Liv. At least Astra gets more to do but this is a tough watch.

Who is the grown daughter of other cast member (besides Samantha Noble) or who is the cast with daughter? Thanks.

@SpaceRanger06 said:

Currently rewatching the show for the first time since it stopped airing. It's quite nice to watch it and not have to wait a week, a month etc for a new episode. Because I'd only ever seen each episode once it's like I'm watching the show for the first time. Peter Bishop has got to be one of my favorite tv characters. He's hilarious. Watching S01E12 right now. I heard Netflix removed it, luckily I always buy my favorite shows on bluray (or DVD) once they have finished. Nothing better than owning your own physical copy.

A great "Fringe" fan here!

Fringe cured me of my "gore” phobia. After Fringe NOTHING was too graphic for me to watch. (My days of putting my hands over my eyes—like a 3-year-old—were done! slight_smile )

Fringe also made me a life-long John Noble fan. Yes, I liked him when I was first 'introduced' to him via LOTR; but, it was his portrayal of Dr. Walter Bishop that cemented the 'relationship'.

@FormerlyKnownAs said:

@SpaceRanger06 said:

Currently rewatching the show for the first time since it stopped airing. It's quite nice to watch it and not have to wait a week, a month etc for a new episode. Because I'd only ever seen each episode once it's like I'm watching the show for the first time. Peter Bishop has got to be one of my favorite tv characters. He's hilarious. Watching S01E12 right now. I heard Netflix removed it, luckily I always buy my favorite shows on bluray (or DVD) once they have finished. Nothing better than owning your own physical copy.

A great "Fringe" fan here!

Fringe cured me of my "gore” phobia. After Fringe, _NOTHING*_ was too graphic for me to watch*. (My days of putting my hands over my eyes—like a 3-year-old—were done! slight_smile )

Fringe also made me a life-long John Noble fan. Yes, I liked him when I was first 'introduced' to him via LOTR; but, it was his portrayal of Dr. Walter Bishop that cemented the 'relationship'.

I don't remember anything overly graphic, 'gore-wise'.

@bratface said:

I don't remember anything overly graphic, 'gore-wise'.

Oh, I do! There was the... bug episode, for one. (I might have even just decided to skip that one, after it was clear where it was going.)

Basically, think The Mummy's scarab-beetle scenes.

@SpaceRanger06 said:

Peter Bishop has got to be one of my favorite tv characters. He's hilarious.

Agreed, I always said during the orginal run that one of the highlights of the show was "watching Pacey fight with his dad". 😈

@FeRDNYC said:

@SpaceRanger06 said:

Peter Bishop has got to be one of my favorite tv characters. He's hilarious.

Agreed, I always said during the orginal run that one of the highlights of the show was "watching Pacey fight with his dad". 😈

Hahaha, now that's character's name I haven't heard for ages and had to check if I remember it correctly (Dawson's creek for unfamiliar).

@Markoff said:

Hahaha, now that's character's name I haven't heard for ages and had to check if I remember it correctly (Dawson's creek for unfamiliar).

Ahh am not a man given to conviction, by and large, but in this ahh am resolute: Whenever ahhhhhh see Josh Jackson in anything, as god is my witness ahh shall call him Pacey!

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@Markoff said:

Hahaha, now that's character's name I haven't heard for ages and had to check if I remember it correctly (Dawson's creek for unfamiliar).

Ahh am not a man given to conviction, by and large, but in this ahh am resolute: Whenever ahhhhhh see Josh Jackson in anything, as god is my witness ahh shall call him Pacey!

Is that supposed to be I?

Switching gears slightly — I will say this, for Fringe. Something that I feel deserves more acknowledgement, completely divorced from any in-universe goings-on, the quality (seasons 1-4) or lack thereof (season 5) of the storytelling, and whatever else.

(Oh, and, uh... spoiler alert, I guess? ...For the events of a 14-year-old TV episode? Is that even a thing?)

I genuinely believe that the show was almost single-handedly responsible for steering the US into its u-turn regarding the events of 9/11, when it made the season-1-closing reveal that William Bell's office on red-Fringe¹ Earth was located in the still-standing World Trade Center.

That reveal, that moment, feels like it was the turning point in our world. Or, at least where things started to reverse.

For the previous 8-ish years, we'd been a nation walking on eggshells. It was ugly. Film directors and comics artists would frantically erase any signs or mentions of the Twin Towers from their work just to avoid the topic.

Whereas today, we're collectively in a better place. (I'd argue.) To the point that now, whenever a story needs to convey that it's set in NYC prior to September 2001, the almost contractually-obligated shorthand is that they show an establishing shot with the WTC prominently featured.

I don't know how healthy that is, objectively. But you'll never convince me it's worse than the decade we all spent shambling around in perpetual "Nobody mention the war!" mode. Thanks, Fringe!

Notes:

  1. (Another thing the series doesn't get enough credit for. Though it was still a future development at the end of season 1, the eventual "red Fringe" / "green Fringe" (maybe blue?) opening-titles device they adopted to indicate each episode's multiversal setting was sublime. A tool so clear, effective, and intuitive that in order to even notice just how well it works, you have to take a step back and force yourself to really think about it. (Assuming you consciously notice it at all.) Like the best of Apple's legendary UI flourishes, the ones that built the reputation they've been coasting on for far too long ever since.)

weren't they establishing multiverse more by the statue of liberty color than WTC?

They used that too, though my memory is that the last scene of season 1, where Olivia was standing in William Bell's office after she'd crossed over, followed by the pull-away reveal of the towers' structure and the slightly unfamiliar New York scene around it, was the very first look we got at that Earth. Prior to that, all of the team's encounters were with alternate-universe dwellers (like Bell) who'd crossed over to the original Earth.

The WTC reveal was kind of a one-shot thing. (One of those Daffy Duck, "I can only do this trick once!" things.) But incredibly effective in the context of May 2009.

The bright copper, patina-less Lady Liberty was another device they started to employ, once they got down to regularly swapping back and forth between the two worlds. Along with shots of airships criss-crossing the skies of NYC, still in use on an alternate world that presumably never experienced the Hindenburg disaster.

But the Red-Fringe/Green-Fringe thing I mentioned was separate from all that, and more direct: Once they started regularly flipping back and forth between the two worlds, centering each episode on one or the other, the opening titles were adjusted to reflect the setting.

  1. Every episode where the action took place on the original Earth from season 1, JJ's brief theme music played out over green/blue-ish tinted opening titles not too different from the Season 1 version.
  2. On weeks where the episode was set on the other Earth, the opening titles were the same, except that the visuals were all very distinctively shaded in red tones.

Voila: Red-Fringe / Green-Fringe.

(And then usually something else completely different from both of those, for each season's reliably weird Episode 19.)

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