Item: Season 1
Language: en-US
Type of Problem: Incorrect_content
Extra Details: Episode one isn't divided into 2 parts. While they are segments, both are listed as 1 episode on the oficial website: https://tomo-chan.jp/story/
According to the anime guidelines it should be only one episode:" While the episode are composed of multiple segments, they are listed as regular episodes on the official website."
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Reply by tmdb28249793
on January 5, 2023 at 8:35 AM
Seconded. Episode 2's airdate is set for January 12th, 2023.
Also, both episodes 1 and 2 are about 25 minutes long.
I'd make the corrections myself, but there's a padlock on everything for a brand new entry for some reason. What's the point of making a wiki-style site if all the fields are locked by default?
Reply by raze464
on January 5, 2023 at 4:16 PM
The sentence you quote refers to Aho-Girl, which has segments but each episode has a single title and description on the official website.
This one would be similar to the Shin-chan example. Like Shin-chan, Tomo-Chan Is a Girl! appears to be using the "Segment 1 / Segment 2" format since the website has 『女の子に見られたい!』『戦慄の挑戦状』as the title, with『女の子に見られたい!』being the title of the first segment and 『戦慄の挑戦状』being the title of the second segment. Where they differ is the episode description; there doesn't seem to be separate overviews for the segments.
I've never watched or edited an anime with segments so I was going by the examples given in the Contribution Bible and the Shin-chan one seemed the most accurate. I have asked internally for a second opinion.
Reply by superboy97
on January 5, 2023 at 4:28 PM
I confirm that the segmentation should be applied as each segment has its own title and its own overview.
Reply by Sonply
on January 6, 2023 at 5:37 AM
They do have 2 titles, but only one overview in the oficial website. Unlike Shin-chan, it will never air as segments, as it follows the manga story.
It seems wrong, but it is your rules, you decide what to do.
Reply by superboy97
on January 6, 2023 at 9:52 AM
Only the overview of the first segment is listed on the website. That doesn't mean that nothing happen in the 2nd segment.
Who knows... The manga story can also be followed by broadcasting one segment at a time.
Reply by tmdb28249793
on January 7, 2023 at 3:15 AM
There is only one overview on the site because there is only one episode aired so far. Out of all the Japanese and foreign databases cataloging this show, this is the only one trying to break it apart into sub-episodes as if they are meant to be apart. There is only one intro sequence - prior to segment one. There is only one credit roll - after segment two. Because they are expected by the producers to be watched at once, as a single entity.
Segment titles are in a LOT of Anime listed on this site that are still entered as whole episodes like they should be. Why is it so important lean on an exception to break viewing lists and confuse people who are only going to ever see this show broadcasted and streamed as a single, whole episode containing two segments?
Are rules applied based on what could happen or what has actually happened? Tomo-chan has never been officially aired or transmitted as separated segments of an episode. Most Anime that titles its segments never are. Again, that practice is an exception that only applies to a few outliers. And even so, those exceptions are more commonly encountered as whole episodes making turning each segment int an episode confusing and disorganized either way.
Build a system within the site that allows you to show (title, tag, etc.) each segment of an episode while still encapsulating them within the episode entry itself so it doesn't confuse casual watchers who just want to track their viewing or screw up databases using TMDB as a source and expecting an episode to be the full episode.
Reply by superboy97
on January 7, 2023 at 3:24 AM
If it was so simple, the overview would have cover the content of the 2 segments, not just of the first one.
Each site has its own set of rules.
Nearly all segmented shows are build this way.
The segmentation rule is based on what could happen.
We will confirm or infirm our decision based on the next episodes. In the meantime, there will be no changes in our listing.
Reply by Rodskel
on January 16, 2023 at 8:41 AM
I created an account on this site just to leave this message. In my opinion decision to divide each episode into segments are frankly quite bizarre. Sure, episode titles contain 2 different titles but it's not enough to split them. I don't know if you have watched any episodes of this anime, but I have watched them and each episode has one opening sequence, 2 story segments and a single ending/credits sequence, and there is no way you can split them and call them 2 different " mini episodes". In no place they are streamed as individual segments, they are coherent episodes. If you check episodes page in the official website of Tomo-chan Is a Girl! you can see the producers of the anime also lists each episode as a single unit with 2 titles. Also as to inform you I would ask you to check Don't Toy with Me, Miss Nagatoro Season 1, it's episodes are also in a segmented form but they are not split into 2 different entries. Another good example is Spy X Family Season 1, where some of the episodes are segmented but not split, and episode 17 has 3 different segments but it's listed as a single episode. If these examples are not enough to satiate your concerns I can happily dig out multitude of different anime. I kindly request you to not split the episodes into their segments, thank you for your time.
Reply by vinnpinn
on January 18, 2023 at 3:44 PM
Why would anyone think one episode is one segment? After 3 episodes it’s clear that the episodes should definitely not be divided by their segments, just because there are two. There are so many shows that do exactly this, most of them are listed here as episodes, not segments. Listing the episodes as segments is so far away from reality. Look at To Love Ru or Nichijou, nobody ever thought a single second about splitting them in segments. This doesn’t make sense at all.
Please, go watch 2 episodes of this show on Crunchyroll (or anywhere else, idc), you’ll see that it doesn’t make any sense to split episodes into segments. This just makes the data completely useless because no one will ever come across the episodes split into single segments.
Reply by StefaanD
on January 18, 2023 at 4:06 PM
Can some other mode overrule the decision superboy97 takes , as I think he lives in his own little world. I mean all, and yes ALL OTHER sources have this down correctly, but the mod here decides, hey let’s do somewhat else. Well then, if you already want to stick with it, then expand the season to 24 episodes instead of 12 … seriously 😒
Reply by superboy97
on January 18, 2023 at 4:34 PM
Did you read this topic ? If you had read it, you had see that the decision has been taken by another moderator and that I have just confirm it.
Reply by Rodskel
on January 18, 2023 at 6:17 PM
Dear mods, please do not close this discussion, because we as the community are not satisfied with the conclusion you reached. Since you state that according to TMDB rules on anime segments, episodes of this anime should be split into segments. However, on the the official website of this anime episodes are not split into segments. In addition, AniDB page of this anime lists each episode as a single unit, not segments. Also, My Anime List page of this anime clearly states episode count is 13, not 20+ something segments, and also the duration is 23 minutes per episode. Additionally, "episodes list" on the Japanese Wikipedia page of this anime clearly shows each episode has two titles but they're listed as only one episode (Here's the English version.), not two different segments. Furthermore, here is the Fandom page of this anime, not surprisingly it also has only 3 episodes. On top of that, here's the episodes page on IMDB, again only 3 episodes. Beside these there are too many cases of the same situation that if I were to list them all here the storage space on your servers might fill up. I think I have made my point clearly. Basically you strictly follow your rules, whilst ignoring concerns of your community. TMDB rules are not "US Constitution" or "Old Testament", while even those might relax in some situations. After all this if you were to still ignore us, you show that the moderation power you posses clearly muddled your cognition to a degree that can be considered as fascistic, which is definitely not allowed in community guidelines. Please do not disregard our concerns anymore, thank you.
Reply by StefaanD
on January 19, 2023 at 4:41 AM
Since I already a topic myself, and only found out about this one later, I didn’t read it myself so apologies for that.
That said wouldn’t it be better to have a moderator with more knowledge about anime look into this as it’s rather clear that neither you or @raze464 have sufficient knowledge to correctly judge how anime series, like this one, should be set up.
Heck there are a lot of series with multiple segments in ONE episode, will you also go over these and split them up?
It’s also baffling that all good concerns from other users here, are simply ignored.
Reply by StefaanD
on January 19, 2023 at 6:35 AM
The official website for this series, clearly shows that the two segments are one episode. Much like as with Aho-Girl as per the TMDB rules.
https://tomo-chan.jp/story/
Reply by Sonply
on January 19, 2023 at 7:03 AM
The thing is, on Tokyo Revengers they are applying their rule correctly, like they do with every anime that is continuous. And it has been a while already. Look at Bungo Stray Dogs, In/Spectre, they are also from this season and have this rule.
On Urusei Yatsura they also are, as the segments are divided in the official website and have descriptions for each segment.
In this case, however, the segments don't have different descriptions. So it is not like they say in their rules. This is a special case. But, it is up to them to interpret their rules.