Item: Fallen
Language: en-US
Type of Problem: Incorrect_content
Extra Details: Wrong Episode Listing
Only 3 episodes 1 -> Not an episode 2 -> Episode 1 3 -> Episode 2 4 -> Episode 3 5 -> Not an episode.
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Reply by Marr 🇳🇱
on March 12, 2021 at 1:27 AM
Not really true:
http://www.sniegoski.com/fallen/movies.html
At best, it has 4 episodes instead of 5, if you consider the TV movie to be stand alone and not associated with the later episodes.
However, since the DVDs are a re-release, the movies should be deleted. At least part 2 and 3 (added in May/July 2019), if you consider episode 1 to be a movie, the series should start with episode 2 (being episode 1 then). They can be combined/connected when universes get here. I suppose those parts refer to the days on which they were released. Or perhaps the books?
Reply by ruchirmehta
on March 12, 2021 at 12:20 PM
You are quoting 2 different things.
The second quote that you have:
This represents everything Fallen (The Complete Series, Parts 1-3) = Fallen: The Beginning (Parts 1 and 2) + Fallen: The Destiny (Part 3).
So only 3 parts for Fallen.
Am I missing something here?
Reply by Marr 🇳🇱
on March 12, 2021 at 4:06 PM
Yes, I'm quoting two different things, but related, as they are the same content. The episodes are five, or four, because the first one is a TV movie.
The episodes however, were re-released on DVDs. The complete series (all episodes it seems), and the beginning and the destiny. Only parts of the episodes. The original TV movie, and two of the DVDs are now added as movies. Those final two movies are wrong to begin with.
I'm assuming it's like this. Since the final four episode are each an hour long.
Reply by ruchirmehta
on March 12, 2021 at 4:16 PM
I think it should just be 3 parts.
As per my understanding, " Episode 1: "Fallen" - two-hour movie - first aired July 23rd, 2006 -> Part 1: The Beginning Episode 2: "The Time of the Redeemer" - August 4th, 2007 -> Part 2: The Journey "Mysterious Ways and All That" - August 4th, 2007 -> Part 2: The Journey Episode 3: "Someone Always Has to Die" - August 5th, 2007 -> Part 3: The Destiny "Il Gran Rifuto" - August 5th, 2007 -> Part 3: The Destiny
Reply by ruchirmehta
on March 12, 2021 at 4:19 PM
All the 3 episodes, "The Beginning", "The Journey", and "The Destiny" have runtimes close to 1 hour and 20 minutes each, which lines up with 2 hours including commercials.
Reply by Marr 🇳🇱
on March 12, 2021 at 7:54 PM
Oh great, DVDs with different naming then how Freeform names it LOL.
However, that still doesn't change the fact that it's 1 TV movie, and 4 episodes. Combinations of two of last mentioned episodes, forming Part 2 and 3. Which is all I'm trying to say. And on TMDb you don't enter "parts" you enter episodes.
And you can create an episode group for the "parts"
The press release also mentions four additional episodes of "parts two and three".
http://www.thefutoncritic.com/news/2007/06/28/fallen-returns-to-abc-family-for-a-special-television-event-beginning-friday-august-3-24790/20070628abcfamily01/
That Freeform now lists it as 3 separate movies is of no importance.
Reply by superboy97
on February 8, 2023 at 12:03 AM
The series has been fixed to include only its 4 episodes, and the Part 2 and Part 3 movies has been removed, being just alternate versions..