Item: Oggy and the Cockroaches
Language: en-US
Type of Problem: Incorrect_content
Extra Details: Hi,
Please read the below carefully and add a separate show for "Oggy and the Cockroaches: Next Generation" instead of adding it in the existing series. As it's a reboot. Separate series, separate production. Every other source depicts the same. Even Netflix being the producer added this cartoon in a separate catalogue.
Oggy and the Cockroaches: Next Generation is a slapstick comedy animated series produced by Xilam Animation for the streaming service Netflix. It is a reboot of Xilam’s long-running animated series, Oggy and the Cockroaches. Like the original series, it focuses on the wacky antics of Oggy and the trio of mischievous cockroaches that inhabit his house. Aside from the titular characters, the series also introduces the addition of the seven-year-old Piya – an optimistic elephant from India whom Oggy has to look after.
Sources: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oggy_and_the_Cockroaches:_Next_Generation
https://www.netflix.com/in/title/81422836
https://www.justwatch.com/in/tv-show/oggy-and-the-cockroaches-next-generation
https://xilam.com/en/media/oggy-and-the-cockroaches-next-generation/
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Reply by superboy97
on September 30, 2024 at 10:22 AM
I invite you to read this previous content report.
We follow the original broadcast.
Reply by Drummer
on September 30, 2024 at 12:38 PM
Hi,
But that even makes sense if the production of a particular movie/series if depicting the work as a reboot/new?
So as per your logic 'Lost in Space' series from Netflix should be casted within the old series with the same name as it's a reboot only and with all other different rebooted series as well. Just because a TV channel thought to show it as the existing part of the series doesn't make sense. Also the original production house Xilam itself produced it as a fresh content. Thoughts?
Reply by superboy97
on September 30, 2024 at 12:43 PM
As per our rules, we follow the way it was originally broadcasted in the origin country.
Xilam is a French company. Consequently, we should follow the original French broadcast which has been done by Gulli.
Reply by Drummer
on September 30, 2024 at 11:09 PM
can u drop the link where your rules have been established? if not could you pass this on to your senior please?
Reply by superboy97
on September 30, 2024 at 11:15 PM
The rules are here. I quote : "Episodes should be added exactly as they first aired on the original network (title, date, order, season). ".
Reply by Drummer
on October 1, 2024 at 4:45 AM
I get that, it means if i want to add a new "Episode" (not a reboot series) then you can definitely add as per the original broadcast no doubt. But here we are talking about the whole new series. What Gulli did/mentioned was their choice. But it's a production of Xilam not Gulli. I can make a movie/tv series and set up a contract and let any broadcasters and steamer air my work. But that doesn't mean the production I made would differ. If you can find me if Xilam said it's an 8th Season then you can close this ticket, I won't say anything. I know you're following the rule. But again, the rule itself is adding about new "Episode" *(not a reboot series) *
I quote below from the TV bible "For recent TV series, the best source is often its official website."
Below is the official website for Oggy and the cockroaches by the production house Xilam. As you can see there is no season 8. (Gulli is NOT an official site, it's a broadcaster). And considering this reboot series is a recent series, TMDB rule is APPLICABLE over here.
https://xilam.com/en/media/oggy-the-cockroaches/
Production Information: Format: 350×7′ – 7 Seasons Seasons 5, 6 and 7 produced in 4K Genre: Slapstick Comedy (no dialogue) Target Audience: Kids Production: Xilam Animation *Production Year:1998-2018 * Created by: Jean-Yves Raimbaud Directed by:Olivier Jean-Marie
Below is a dedicated official webpage for "Next Generation" (NOT a part of existing Oggy and the cockroaches series).
https://xilam.com/en/media/oggy-and-the-cockroaches-next-generation/
Production Information:
Format:78×7′ Genre: Slapstick Comedy (non-dialogue) Target Audience: Kids Production: Xilam Animation *Production Years:2020-2021 * Created by: Jean-Yves Raimbaud Directed by: Khalil Ben Naamane
C'mon its not like I am requesting any illegal content modification; I have provided a whole load of source and evidence stating Next Generation is a separate/reboot series.
You can consult with your seniors in this case. I am open for any other discussion but for now I believe its the right thing to do, adding Next Generation as a separate show.
Reply by superboy97
on October 1, 2024 at 5:49 AM
We need to follow how the series was originally broadcasted on the original network. Consequently, the official site for us is always the site of the original broadcaster, not the one of the producer.
I have left a message to a second moderator.
No. Adding it is against our rules.
Reply by raze464
on October 1, 2024 at 6:02 AM
@superboy97 is correct. While it may have been produced by Xilam as a separate series, it was not broadcast as a separate series; it was broadcast as the next season of an existing show. The network's website, in this case the Gulli website, is really the only one that matters.
Please also see the "General" subsubsection in the "Seasons" subsection of the TV Bible:
Since Oggy and the Cockroaches: Next Generation is a French production that first aired in France as the next season of an existing TV show, and added as such to the network's website, it should also be listed as the next season of this show on TMDB as well, not as a separate entry.
Reply by Drummer
on October 1, 2024 at 8:30 AM
Gulli did messed it up and advertised it as the existing part. Just a marketing strategy to gather the viewership. But I get it rules here have been based on broadcasting. Assuming TMDB values the broadcasters more than the creators.
Anyway thanks u both. Can close this ticket now.