@Knixon : Well the rehashing of episodes is common in all of the spin offs of TOS. In TNG we had Naked Now which was a clear rehash of The Naked Time and several other episodes during it's run and DS9 even went so far as to revisit the happenings of Trouble With Tribbles and a lot of VOY was the rehashing of old TNG and TOS episodes.As far as ENT was concerned I was always interested (ever since I was a teenager first watching TOS) what the background history was for TOS and how mankind eventually evolved into the moral levelheaded humans of the 23st century(I have always been a history buff so maybe that's why).

As far as the mirror universe episode of TOS is concerned ,drawing for Earth's history having an despotic regime(i.e. an empire with an emperor or empress) isn't the best environment for scientific or cultural development and if we draw certain parallels with the Roman Empire during the time of the emperors there was a stagnation in scientific and cultural development since everybody was too busy in becoming emperor (whether by corruption or murder) that there (certainly at several moments during it's run ) was hardly any consistent form of government or rule of government and for centuries things basically stayed "the same".

Well the reasons I liked the episodes was that the show's most demure and less self -assured character(although her character does grow during the run of the series) was turned into this unscrupulous vamp literally going over dead bodies to achieve her goals.Another thing I liked about the episodes is that we get to see the old TOS sets and costumes (which for most TOS fans is like a warm bath or bed much like in the episodes of TNG Relics and DS9 Trials and Tribulations ) ,also part of the charm is that we have the link with TOS The Tholian Web and we actually get to see the Tholians and we find out what happened to the USS Defiant and that they utilised this for this two parter.And finally there is a Gorn in the episode

But see, those are exactly the problems, like I said. Trying to tell the backstory/history in ways that really don't fit with what they're trying to show, doesn't actually help. In a way, that makes me wonder how far they would have to screw things up, before you'd decide it was too much. Is there any limit at all? Could they have shown Spock die in the Ent mirror episodes - or maybe Spock's parents die, before he was born - and you'd somehow still believe he was alive for the TOS episode? They didn't have to go nearly that far, before I knew they were off the rails. Heck, the TOS episode was already off the rails.

If you are talking about the fact that certain events that seem to contradict the canon of previous shows , that has happened during the various incarnations of Trek during the almost 20 years it had been on the air since '87 and since we are talking about a century before the events of TOS we can expect that during that century some revision of historical events could have taken place (it would not be the first time in history that would have happened). If you view the series from that perspective those things won't bother you so much and enjoy the show as how it was intended. As for the far too advanced technology compared to the TOS series that is actually an example of where the studio "suits" were interfering with the original concept of Berman and Braga who originally wanted even less technology.

I know where were more or less - at least hopefully - accidental or at least careless incidents with lack of continuity especially with TOS. There are various ways of forgiving those including tight production schedules, a variety of writers, and less consideration that anyone would still be watching it or even thinking about it, 50 years later. But the later shows especially Enterprise, can't really use those excuses.

I know where were more or less - at least hopefully - accidental or at least careless incidents with lack of continuity especially with TOS. There are various ways of forgiving those including tight production schedules, a variety of writers, and less consideration that anyone would still be watching it or even thinking about it, 50 years later. But the later shows especially Enterprise, can't really use those excuses.

@Knixon : Well that is partially true fact is that during the turn of the century during the last season of VOY and while ENT was in production the management of Paramount changed, and where previously (during TNG,DS9 and VOY) the series producers were given carte blanche by the previous management (who supported Star Trek recognising ,despite dwindling numbers of viewers, it's importance to Paramount).After the change there was a new management who had no affiliation with or interest in SF and in particular Trek and were kind of resentful at the show for being given carte blanche previously .

During the run of the first two seasons Berman and Braga (who have repeatedly pointed this out in various interviews)had to fight for every idea and also preventing "the head office" from making various silly and plain stupid alterations to their original ideas and plans for the show(you won't believe this but"the head office " once had serious plans to schedule various boy bands to appear on ENT to attract young female viewers to give you an idea how stupid their ideas were .The Temporal Cold War was another idea that was development because "the head office" demanded more future technology)that it is nothing short of a miracle that ENT was made at all

Another point is that at the end of season 1 the vast majority of the series regular writing team (people like Ron Moore), and had been with the show since TNG,DS9 and VOY, had left the show.So the producers of ENT found themselves at the head of a completely new writing team that didn't have the history with/knowledge of the show like the writing teams of the previous Trek series.

Okay, but if they had wanted to do a better job, all they needed to do was freakin' watch the previous shows! And maybe take a few notes.

Well they did task Mr&Mrs Star Trek (Mike and Denise Okuda) to take care of this,making sure things were according to previously established canon or did not veer off too much from that or make the material more according established canon.But like I said this problem also exists in the other series part of the reasons why Paramount choose for the alternate timeline for the reboot of ST09 was to get rid of these inconsistencies and to start anew without having to explain or address these inconsistencies.But most of these inconsistencies were a direct result of too much(bad) interference of "the head office".

The TNG style and formula was being overused since Roddenberry died and I was really fed up with it.

Didn't use the TOS look because Rick Berman and Co were more fans of TNG, when doing ENT they openly said they were never gonna do that look and TNG was superior which they shouldn't have done because it's just attracting angry words, it's like if you made a OK Bond film and said it was better than the ones that came before, it's one thing if it's coming from fans or critics but when it comes from the writers themselves it's not so much inducing trekkers flocking to see it as inducing eye rolls.

It was coming out when the Trek craze was ending a bit. By the time it was airing the last TNG film Nemesis had flopped.

Enterprise failed because needed a imagination capturing premise with well defined characters or a cool retro style look that isn't TNG inspired or new blood to the franchise it has none.

It was coming out when the Trek craze was ending a bit. By the time it was airing the last TNG film Nemesis had flopped.

Like I said a large part of the reason why ENT failed was of franchise fatigue and that the whole TNG era formula had been overused.Add to that that ever since TNG had finished and DS 9 was airing followed by VOY the numbers of viewers had been dropping steadily the irony was that with the last two seasons of ENT those ratings were starting to rise again. Berman and Braga have often mentioned that they didn't want to start with a new Trek show after VOY had ended and that it was fairly late during the last season of VOY that the studio had come with a request for a new show.But originally Berman & Braga had wanted to wait for a couple years before starting a new Trek show.And both of them have said in various interviews that despite the difficulties they had(mostly with the studio and with them interfering in the show) the show they were proudest of was ENT.

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But originally Berman & Braga had wanted to wait for a couple years before starting a new Trek show.And both of them have said in various interviews that despite the difficulties they had(mostly with the studio and with them interfering in the show) the show they were proudest of was ENT.

To me that just proves they were/are delusional.

Why because they felt despite not being able to fully get (largely due to an uncoöporative and incompetent management )their original ideas and concepts realised that they managed to at least get what was at the core of the concept to have less boring TNG era technobabble and tree hugging main characters in ENT and to have characters that are flawed and have character arcs over the course of seasons .Which to me make them far more Human and certainly more relatable. Were problems are solved by human ingenuïty and wits in stead of having the tech solution of the week where Data,Wesley or some smart ass Vulcan come up with using y-rays or x-waves or some other unexplainable technology which I always thought was so lame.

The problem is more like what happened with Discovery, but less so. Too much contradiction with "known history" etc. They could have kept all the better-quality stuff they were after, without so much going against what came before.

@Nexus71 said:

It was coming out when the Trek craze was ending a bit. By the time it was airing the last TNG film Nemesis had flopped.

Like I said a large part of the reason why ENT failed was of franchise fatigue and that the whole TNG era formula had been overused.Add to that that ever since TNG had finished and DS 9 was airing followed by VOY the numbers of viewers had been dropping steadily the irony was that with the last two seasons of ENT those ratings were starting to rise again. Berman and Braga have often mentioned that they didn't want to start with a new Trek show after VOY had ended and that it was fairly late during the last season of VOY that the studio had come with a request for a new show.But originally Berman & Braga had wanted to wait for a couple years before starting a new Trek show.And both of them have said in various interviews that despite the difficulties they had(mostly with the studio and with them interfering in the show) the show they were proudest of was ENT.

Perhaps if the show was made many years after Voyager like in the late 2000's things could've been different.

ENT felt like it was time for a new style and formula not the same TNG formula.

@Nexus71 said:

Why because they felt despite not being able to fully get (largely due to an uncoöporative and incompetent management )their original ideas and concepts realised that they managed to at least get what was at the core of the concept to have less boring TNG era technobabble and tree hugging main characters in ENT and to have characters that are flawed and have character arcs over the course of seasons .Which to me make them far more Human and certainly more relatable. Were problems are solved by human ingenuïty and wits in stead of having the tech solution of the week where Data,Wesley or some smart ass Vulcan come up with using y-rays or x-waves or some other unexplainable technology which I always thought was so lame.

Think Trek really needed new blood or people telling the writers all the technobabble isn't really interesting and has gotten nonsensical.