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In the first episode someone has been murdered. Then in all later episodes the towns people are shown giving statements and talking to police, and those clips are constantly sprinkled throughout every episode, So if all of what they are showing happening takes place before and leading up to the murder, why is there crime tape in some of those before scenes?

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@Invidia said:

By crime tape do you mean the yellow tape that blocks the stairway that leads to the place where they rehearse the play?

If not, then what exactly is shown in the crime tape?

Do you mean the scene from the opening credits where we see the females walking up to the camera and strike poses?

Something else?

If you can be more specific about what you see as being a crime tape that would help.

Perhaps the yellow tape that blocks the stairs is just there to keep others from seeing them rehearsing for the play before it's performed?

wave_tone1 Thank you for replying. The yellow tape on the stairs-Is that not where some one was murdered/body found?

@ScorpionQ2 said:

In the first episode someone has been murdered. Then in all later episodes the towns people are shown giving statements and talking to police, and those clips are constantly sprinkled throughout every episode, So if all of what they are showing happening takes place before and leading up to the murder, why is there crime tape in some of those before scenes?

I like that they are showing the other parents or members of Monterey giving statements it keeps us guessing on who hated who and scandals in their "perfect" community also I think it might be a clue that some of the people being interviewed Make a point to say it's not just the mom's that have issues it's also the dad's. Could mean it's not one of the 3 main women! Now about the yellow tape going to the theater that Madeline works at THAT confused me too! I thought maybe it was put up because the insufferable Renata is trying to shut their show down. That's all I could come up with for that otherwise nothing was ever mentioned about it like was work recently done on the stairs? Idk lol I hope I could help!

@Invidia said:

It's hard to say because in the scene in the opening credits we can only see their faces and can't see the location.

Since there's some kind of an event coming up where the males dress like Elvis, and the females dress like Audrey Hepburn, that might be why we see them strike the pose.

Or it could be another different event where they wear other costumes and the murder takes place?

Since they also keep showing the beach and the drop off down to the rocks, it would also be nice to see the murder take place that way.

Plus the detective also said the brain had been liquefied (due to all of the blood). And if the body fell down the stairs it doesn't seem as likely that the brain would have been damaged that much?

Falling off one of those steep cliffs we keep seeing would probably result in that kind of brain damage?

The murder takes place at the Elvis/Audrey Hepburn fundraiser. I don't remember if they mentioned the venue but the body was on the back patio down some stairs. It had to be down a lot of stairs (cement?) for the brain to be liquified!

I never thought anything about the tape on the stairs where the community theatre is. Good question. They use yellow tape to block off areas under repair so maybe it's just a red herring.

@Invidia said:

If the murder does take place on those stairs, wonder why the person wasn't able to stop themselves from falling all the way down them?

Wouldn't someone who was falling down that many stairs also stop falling at some point?

What on earth could possibly have kept them tumbling all the way down them?

Maybe if they were wearing some kind of slippery shoes?

Could that be the reason why they kept falling all the way down? Were the shoes they were wearing the cause of their not being able to get a grip and stop the fall?

How sweet that would be to see the shoes of the Rapist had also played a part in their death.

Momentum....if they started to tumble down (or were pushed down) at the top as long as there are no landings they could tumble all the way down banging their head on each stair...nasty.

It would be like when the other girl in THE BAD SEED goes out in the thunder storm to try and find the Spelling MEDAL on the pier where she killed the little boy for it and then gets hit by the lightening.

Did you ever see that movie?

One of my all time favourite movies!

Perry reminds one of that girl who also would dress up so prim and proper ... as if to hide the corruption that lies under her pretty clothing and her fake good manners.

Often true of abusers. To the outside world they are perfect- friendly, outgoing, helpful, successful - but to their immediate family, a monster. I Agree Perry fits that picture, the adoring husband and father, but is controlling and abusive to his wife (who IMHO gets turned on by the rough sex but maybe not so much by the hitting/yelling/humiliation that precedes it)

@Invidia said:

OMG! You think she actually likes the rough sex?

Another poster suggested the same thing!

I think she's conflicted - she likes the rough sex but not the abuse that leads up to it. Also, if she discovered this side of herself after she married Perry, she may be confused/upset/disgusted with herself that she is turned on by it. She always seems distant, someone else said melancholy which is a good description. Where you always know what Madeline is thinking (at least on the surface) we are never quite sure what Celeste is thinking. She really only came alive when she was the lawyer for Madeline and the play.

What could that hole in the soul of the shoe be about?

Could it be some kind of device placed there to stop the decay of the shoe?

Didn't people also use to wear little devices on the bottom of their shoe's (that made them sound a bit like they were wearing tap shoes) in order to stop the decomposition of the bottom part of the shoe?

So if that hole is some kind of a metal device placed there for that reason perhaps it could also work the same way as if he were wearing a pair of ice skates and the stairs were covered with ice?

I think it's just the shoe construction. I've seen other soles that have a "hole" in the heel; not really a hole but...frankly I don't know what that is.

Also had no idea shoving someone could do that much damage.

If you shove them down a flight of concrete stairs, yup, lots of damage.

Still hoping the shoes also play a role in it as well.

The idea of karma catching up to them for their crime and all of the hell they've put Jane and her son through is so appealing.

Do you think Perry is Jane's rapist? On one hand I do think he is her rapist, on the other hand it's like, maybe not, maybe it's too obvious. I'm probably overthinking it.

Also found this:

https://www.themoviedb.org/tv/66292-big-little-lies/season/1/episode/1

Ep 1 Somebody's Dead

February 19, 2017

A suspicious death at an elementary school fund-raiser exposes rivalries simmering beneath the superficial comity among some of the parents

So now we also know the murder takes place at the school (where they probably also rehearse for the play)?

Which takes us right back to asking WHY that tape is there again.

Did anyone else note the way the TAPE was down at the bottom of the stairs, but then it was found halfway up them the next time that we see Reese climbing them???

So the tape was also moved from being all the way down at the bottom of them to being Half the way up to the top of them?

I think Renata ripped down the first tape at the bottom or maybe it was Madeline. I would have to watch again to be sure. Those stairs would make for a nasty tumble!

@ScorpionQ2 said:

In the first episode someone has been murdered. Then in all later episodes the towns people are shown giving statements and talking to police, and those clips are constantly sprinkled throughout every episode, So if all of what they are showing happening takes place before and leading up to the murder, why is there crime tape in some of those before scenes?

Doesn't someone says in one of the eps that someone got pushed downstairs? It make sense the yellow tape there.

@jingles173 said:

I like that they are showing the other parents or members of Monterey giving statements ....

Yes I like that about the show too.

Now about the yellow tape going to the theater that Madeline works at THAT confused me too!

Good, glad I am not the only one. I wasn't even gonna ask cause I didn't want to sound stupid-like I had missed something obvious.

I thought maybe it was put up because the insufferable Renata is trying to shut their show down. That's all I could come up with for that otherwise nothing was ever mentioned about it like was work recently done on the stairs?

No, nothing was ever mentioned and I kept noticing it and thinking it was crime tape, but why would it be there before the murder happened?

Idk lol I hope I could help!

Thanks for replying Jingles smile

I re watched episode 5 and paused, there is yellow caution tape at the bottom of the stairs and then more almost at the top and then more at the top.** 3 separate tapes on the same stairs** that everyone just keeps walking on (if there was work done). I think I just need to re watch episode 1 to see where exactly the police are standing and looking when they are talking about the murder.

I think the murder happens at the school there's a fundraiser going on when it happens. Maybe the tapeople at the stairs means nothing but to throw us off lol

@Catharine said:

The murder takes place at the Elvis/Audrey Hepburn fundraiser. I don't remember if they mentioned the venue but the body was on the back patio down some stairs.

It had to be down a lot of stairs (cement?) for the brain to be liquified!

I think one of the police said that exactly.

I never thought anything about the tape on the stairs where the community theatre is.

I was seeing it , but it wasn't registering at first, then it started to bug me why its there.

Good question.

Thank you.

They use yellow tape to block off areas under repair so maybe it's just a red herring.

Could be. If its there for 'area under repair' people are still using them and if its crime tape- it shouldn't be there pre-murder.

@LukeyTarg said:

Doesn't someone says in one of the eps that someone got pushed downstairs? It make sense the yellow tape there.

No, because what we are currently watching is what lead up to the murder- the murder has not happened yet- so there should be no crime tape.

@Invidia said:

Still hoping the shoes also play a role in it as well.

That's another thing that bothers me, have you noticed when they show the shoe prints on the beach there is one last single shoe print in the sand? One print all alone. Where is the other shoe print? Are we looking for the one legged man? Did the person just hop away on one leg?

Which takes us right back to asking WHY that tape is there again.

Did anyone else note the way the TAPE was down at the bottom of the stairs, but then it was found halfway up them the next time that we see Reese climbing them???

So the tape was also moved from being all the way down at the bottom of them to being Half the way up to the top of them?

There is actually 3 different areas of the steps that are taped off- at the bottom, close to the top and at the top.

@Invidia said:

Note the way the ocean keeps erasing the footprints in the sand behind her as she walks along the shore . So perhaps the reason why that one last foot print is there is because the ocean hasn't wiped it away yet?

Had not even thought of that, Good answer thumbsup_tone2 !

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