@Horus Mazinga

I'll find a way to see the first episode of Discovery but you can be as sure as shit there's no way I'm paying to see the Paul Feig styled marketing that's been given to it.

If it works out I'll buy a physical copy...but we're a long way off from that being a reality in this timeline.

Orville will have me invest in it due to its faithful adaption of the core elements of Trek (Although I agree the dog licking its balls thing would have been better left out of being mentioned and just stuck to the visuals).

@Horus Mazinga

..... I might not even tune in to Discovery. Certainly not going to pay for it.

Bingo.

I'm old enough to remember when championship heavyweight boxing matches were on TV. Yep, free, over-the-air TV paid for by cigarette and beer companies with their commercials between rounds.

Then came the Ali-Frazier fight everyone was waiting for. It was announced that it would be available only on closed-circuit TV. This means that movie theaters would carry the TV coverage and fans would have to pay to get into see it (technology did not exist at that time to do a pay-per-view in the home). I figured that this experiment would fail as boxing fans would stay away in droves costing the promoters millions and forever banish the pay-per-view format. If everyone stayed away, that would have happened. But what the promoters (and I) learned is that the average fan just can't help himself and will not deny himself anything, even if he has to go into hock to get it (see "credit card debt").

I doubt ST Discovery will even come close to ST Original Series or ST Next Gen. My guess is that it will be equivalent to Voyager in quality, a series I watched in it's entirety (just once) and thought it decent enough, but not nearly good enough to pay for.

I have less faith in today's viewers but hope CBS Access fails miserably.

Sorry for the aside on this topic...

@Horus Mazinga said:

I'm on board too. It felt therapeutic to see some sterile Trek-style environment for a change. While I did enjoy much of the humor, I wish they'd trust the viewer a little more. Example: The dog licking its balls in the background was hilarious to me but then they had to have two characters mention it just in case you missed it.

I'll watch the entire first season if it stays at least this good. On the other side of the quantum coin, I might not even tune in to Discovery. Certainly not going to pay for it.

At least nobody (in the show) has mentioned the little plane model on the captain's desk. Not yet, anyway.

One thing that impressed me is that, at least in the first two episodes, the central story was played straight and not made into a campy farce. The time accelerator made an interesting weapon, and the loyalty of the crew to the kidnapped officers was moving. Hope they stick to that approach.

And the finale of episode 2 -- selling trashy Fox series to decadent aliens -- was funny AND a good idea.

@CharlesTheBold said:

And the finale of episode 2 -- selling trashy Fox series to decadent aliens -- was funny AND a good idea.

I wasn't able to watch the second episode but caught the last two minutes and understood the zoo reference (sim to TZone and others), and I literally laughed out loud at the sight of the animals on these reality tv clips and the aliens fascination with them.

Best laugh on TV this season by a long shot, and it belongs to The Orville.

@Chrisman28 said:

to@ satia deleen I guess what I meant is with the creator being who it is I thought there would be more humor involved lol that's all I do get I need to give it time and some jokes may have went over my head' I'm not a diehard trekie just a fan' so you probably caught things I didn't lol

Nah, not really. I mean, I laughed at jokes I wouldn't likely have in the past, but as for being a Trekkie and "catching stuff?" For me, it's more about subconsciously making comparisons between the two (like being glad there's no transporter technology, and that "crack pilots" really do seem to be here, not just able to "hold ground" in a fight, but being like 20th century jet fighter pilots/daredevils).

@Horus Mazinga: I agree. letting things speak for themselves sometimes goes farther than beating a horse to death by commenting unnecessarily (such as in the dog scene).

But don't you think two "real guys" in a "real situation" like that, would make exactly those types of comments? I sure do. In a "real situation" they wouldn't be thinking "Hey I shouldn't say anything because THE AUDIENCE should just enjoy it for what it is." WTF?

What rang false to me was those guys wanting to go to a "pizza party" after seeing two enemy ships heading down towards the planet. No way.

I also found it difficult to accept the guy asking about wearing shorts on the bridge at that time, plus it seemed like the ship was still "hugging the donkey" even when he was turned away from the controls.

@Knixon said:

But don't you think two "real guys" in a "real situation" like that, would make exactly those types of comments? I sure do. In a "real situation" they wouldn't be thinking "Hey I shouldn't say anything because THE AUDIENCE should just enjoy it for what it is." WTF?

What rang false to me was those guys wanting to go to a "pizza party" after seeing two enemy ships heading down towards the planet. No way.

Those two kind of strike me as college frat boy types who drink too much and haven't really grown up and maybe dip into drugs on occasion. So, to me, they have the Peter Pan syndrome going so yes, maybe THEY would feel the need to comment about it, but not the average person. Just my opinion though.

Maybe. But what I seem to hear (read) the most is that they shouldn't be doing the exposition and let the audience figure things out. In real life, people don't think there's an audience that they need to be quiet for.

I guess I can see that. I realize this isn't a crime/drama/mystery show. I suppose I'm of the kind who prefers subtlety sometimes over having things thrown in my face.

That scene could have gone either way.