Yes, I mentioned that on another thread, but it's good to have a separate reminder.

Good. Maybe there won't be anymore eff ups like there was this past Sunday with stupid football games running almost an HOUR overtime and causing the episode not to record. Or rather, only getting about 10 minutes of the show to record!

Fox should be re-airing this past Sunday's episode because of that, but they aren't, so I missed the whole show!

Warrior Caste. Got it.

Hahahahahahahaha. Can't help it. Patience has never been my virtue. My favorite episode was the one where she delivered her ultimatum speech. "He is behind me. YOU are in front of me. If you value your lives, be somewhere else." I really should strive to be more like her calm, patient, reflective side.

Otherwise yeah, I guess I'm Warrior Caste, lol.

God, I miss that show. And I don't mean reruns. I just miss the whole show. I wish Crusaders had been more successful too.

Well that was very good, yes. But in some ways I found her character more... effecting?... when the guy who fired the first shot in the Earth-Minbari war came to her for "absolution." I think you could just tell how deeply she would have felt his pain, etc. And even though it wasn't shown in the episode, I can imagine her reaction when Marcus and Stephen told her the situation. It was kinda similar when she admitted to G'Kar that she (and Sheridan) had let Narn be conquered by the Centauri/Shadows, but somehow that one just didn't seem quite as powerful to me. Maybe because in that situation she shared blame with Sheridan and Kosh, but with the Earth-Minbari war her role and his were fairly similar. He fired the first shot, and she ordered the Minbari forces to retaliate even to the point of possibly annihilating Earth itself.

I'm one of those folks who only watch streaming. I had no idea when the show was on in the first place.

Thursday is a classic FOX comedy night, though, right?

"Good. Maybe there won't be anymore eff ups like there was this past Sunday with stupid football games running almost an HOUR overtime and causing the episode not to record."

Back in the 1960s, when the protocols for TV sports were first being formulated, a network pulled the plug on a game that overran its time slot and went back to regular scheduled programming. The sports fans yelled bloody murder. So ever since, long games have been allowed to disrupt the rest of that evening's schedule.

They do go too far in the other direction nowadays. One year they promised the spy show ALIAS the coveted slot after the game -- then dumped in one stupid post-game special after another with no indication when ALIAS would come on.

I remember CRUSADE. The producers shot themselves in the foot by broadcasting the episodes out of order. For example, one episode "introduced" a "new" character that we had already seen twice. Made it impossible to follow a ongoing story, and most viewers gave up. Might have been a successful show if they had broadcast it right.

Satai Delenn, why did you apparently delete those other posts? They were funny!

"I remember CRUSADE. The producers shot themselves in the foot by broadcasting the episodes out of order. For example, one episode "introduced" a "new" character that we had already seen twice. Made it impossible to follow a ongoing story, and most viewers gave up. Might have been a successful show if they had broadcast it right."

That's what I call "doing a 'Firefly," these days.

@Knixon said:

Satai Delenn, why did you apparently delete those other posts? They were funny!

I haven't deleted anything. If something was deleted, it must have been by a mod.

Oh, and yes, there were many good episodes. It was an incredible, ORIGINAL show. What I liked most about it was that it was following a planned storyline and it worked. JMS is a genius. Paramount was quite stupid to turn him down, and I'm sorry but DS9, while enjoyable, was a complete ripoff of B5.

@Otokichi786 said:

"I remember CRUSADE. The producers shot themselves in the foot by broadcasting the episodes out of order. For example, one episode "introduced" a "new" character that we had already seen twice. Made it impossible to follow a ongoing story, and most viewers gave up. Might have been a successful show if they had broadcast it right."

That's what I call "doing a 'Firefly," these days.

Yeah, I know. I refer to that as pulling an "NBC." That's what NBC did to the original Star Trek. They played the first 6 episodes completely out of order.

And I'm very familiar with the Heidi Bowl disaster (not named for the movie they stopped airing the football game for, but because that annual game was just called Heidi Bowl). And CBS just did the same thing that Fox did to The Orville last week, tonight by letting 60 minutes run overtime and went into Star Trek Discovery's time slot. No big deal in this case as I'm completely unimpressed with it. It's just NOT Trek in any way, shape, or form.

"They played the first 6 episodes completely out of order."

I didn't know that. But since there was little continuity between episodes, it didn't cause much trouble. On a serialized show like CRUSADE, it was a disaster.

"letting 60 minutes run overtime and went into Star Trek Discovery's time slot. "

Wasn't that supposed to be STD's only TV broadcast? They probably lost half their audience, permanently.

I don't know how network execs keep their jobs.

I think the biggest network blooper in history was when they decided to kill off the female lead of the original BEAUTY AND THE BEAST for no reason. Ratings crashed and they had to cancel the show. The writer whose show got destroyed later wrote GAME OF THRONES.

@CharlesTheBold said:

"They played the first 6 episodes completely out of order."

I didn't know that. But since there was little continuity between episodes, it didn't cause much trouble. On a serialized show like CRUSADE, it was a disaster.

"letting 60 minutes run overtime and went into Star Trek Discovery's time slot. "

Wasn't that supposed to be STD's only TV broadcast? They probably lost half their audience, permanently.

I don't know how network execs keep their jobs.

I think the biggest network blooper in history was when they decided to kill off the female lead of the original BEAUTY AND THE BEAST for no reason. Ratings crashed and they had to cancel the show. The writer whose show got destroyed later wrote GAME OF THRONES.

Actually, it did cause trouble because the episode that the network chose to air first is considered one of the worst episodes. It's the one where McCoy reunites (or so he thinks) with a woman he fell in love with who is now married to a scientist. Turns out "she" is really an alien creature who can take the shape of anyone it comes in contact with, but requires salt to survive and begins killing everyone it comes in contact with because of the salt in their skin. Anyway, this episode was apparently not well received, and it took extra time to try and capture viewers as a result.

Yes, Star Trek: Discovery last night was the only "free" broadcast.

Linda Hamilton's character was killed off because she chose to leave the show to film The Terminator. There was no way the show could bring in a replacement that many years into the show, so that's why she was killed off. But yes, after that, the show jumped the shark and only lasted (barely) two more seasons before it was cancelled.

I don't watch Game of Thrones. It became too disgustingly violent for me. I watched a few episodes in the first season when it started, but the violent kid king was the last straw for me.

"Actually, it did cause trouble because the episode that the network chose to air first is considered one of the worst episodes. It's the one where McCoy reunites (or so he thinks) with a woman he fell in love with who is now married to a scientist. Turns out "she" is really an alien creature who can take the shape of anyone it comes in contact with, but requires salt to survive and begins killing everyone it comes in contact with because of the salt in their skin. Anyway, this episode was apparently not well received, and it took extra time to try and capture viewers as a result."

I think everybody calls that the "Salt Vampire Episode"

"Linda Hamilton's character was killed off because she chose to leave the show to film The Terminator."

Didn't they have actor contracts back then? I thought the standard was "7 years or until the show is cancelled, whichever happens first".

"the violent kid king was the last straw for me." Too bad you stopped -- you missed seeing the violent kid king choke to death.