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Like the story idea, but they should have used Gordon as the screw-up guy. The other helmsman is too sensible to get in this mess.

I remember an episode like this on SLIDERS. The main character had to appear on a talk show to talk the audience out of executing him, but it went a different direction after that.

I thought they were going to hack into the planet's computer to create phony "yes" votes and block the "no" votes. But maybe that would have been too sour an ending.

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@CharlesTheBold said:

Though I also suspect that they make the latter difficult on purpose by putting elections on workdays, etc.

Correct me if I'm wrong. But, isn't every day of the week a work day?

Personally speaking. I would rather go to the polls during the week than screw up my weekend. Besides, they've already made it semi convenient by designating it to the same day of the week no matter the election. Although, I once had someone say to me..."I thought the presidential election was going to be on a Thursday this year".

Yup...true story. I just shook my head.

Really Now? Illegals voting?!

Sorry, but that's bullshit. Illegals are busy keeping their heads down and remaining under the radar. To vote requires being on a census. Illegals aren't going out of their way to register with city hall.

You never heard of Motor Voter? Just for one example.

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Thank you for that well stated rebuttal.

Why in the hell would a society want to make voting more difficult?

Again, thank you.

@Nubyan said:

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Thank you for that well stated rebuttal.

Why in the hell would a society want to make voting more difficult?

Again, thank you.

Seems like this episode answers that question too. People don't value or take seriously things that are too easy.

"Why in the hell would a society want to make voting more difficult?"

To make it more difficult for their opponents' supporters from casting that ballots. "Society" doesn't make these decisions; politicians do. They've done all sorts of tricks in my state's history. And one politician tried to overthrow the state government when his voting tricks failed and he lost.

A society is made up of people. I'm not speaking of crooked politicians.

People of the society might also think it's best if voting takes a little effort, so that other people who haven't thought about it at all, maybe don't have quite as much influence as those who think it's important and take it seriously.

@Nubyan said:

Although, I once had someone say to me..."I thought the presidential election was going to be on a Thursday this year". Yup...true story. I just shook my head.

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-but yet so hilarious rofl rofl

Lots of ignorant people around. Last week an insurance broker mentioned the Obamacare program to someone and the Someone said "didn't they repeal that?" - I guess, after failing 3 times, his Congressman just lied about it.

@CharlesTheBold said:

Lots of ignorant people around. Last week an insurance broker mentioned the Obamacare program to someone and the Someone said "didn't they repeal that?" - I guess, after failing 3 times, his Congressman just lied about it.

But you think it should be EASIER for people like that, to vote their ignorance?

Frankly, I wouldn't even mind some kind of "poll test" if it was asking , in that situation,"Has Obamacare been repealed?" and if they answer "yes" they don't get to vote. On ANYTHING.

Actually poll tests to voters are banned by the Constitution. But it would be an excellent idea to give a poll test to Presidential candidates and see how much they actually know about how the government they want to rule.

@CharlesTheBold said:

Actually poll tests to voters are banned by the Constitution. But it would be an excellent idea to give a poll test to Presidential candidates and see how much they actually know about how the government they want to rule.

Poll TAXES were made unconstitutional by the 24th amendment, but poll TESTS, such as a literacy test, are only illegal - not unconstitutional - under the voting rights act of 1965. Which could be changed again by congress. And the 24th amendment technically only applies to voting for president, vice president, and congress (house and senate).

Lots of laws regarding rights are broadly interpreted. For example, the Bill of Rights ostensibly refers to Congressional powers, but nowadays is applied to all levels of government. Likewise the 24th Amerndment, which literally may only mention federal elections, is extended to all elections. I haven't heard of any local government trying to claim immunity from it.

I still think asking presidential candidates to pass a test of their qualifications would be a great idea. I'm not naming names, you understand.

@CharlesTheBold said:

I still think asking presidential candidates to pass a test of their qualifications would be a great idea. I'm not naming names, you understand.

Hey it works for me. Barack Obama saying there are 57 states means he never got elected. Yahooo!!!!

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