Item: Specials
Language: en-US
Type of Problem: Duplicate
Extra Details: The majority of episodes under "Season 0" (i.e. specials) in this entry for RuPaul's Drag Race, are episodes of RuPaul's Drag Race Untucked which alread has an entry here on the db or RuPaul's Drag Race All Stars: Untucked which also already has an entry here on the db.
Is this content duplicate content? (i.e. should be merged with the separate entries I linked).
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Reply by Banana
on January 7, 2019 at 12:24 PM
I started removing some of the Untucked specials from Season 0, but the older ones needs to be merged. Any chance you want to take care of it? :)
Reply by tmdb24407783
on January 7, 2019 at 1:12 PM
I mean, with a quick look, it looks like a bit of a confusing mess. But I'll have a deeper look later, and see if I can do it myself. If not, I will come back here and say so.
Reply by tmdb24407783
on January 19, 2019 at 2:16 AM
I've just had a quick look at it, and after just a few minutes, I don't think I'm gonna take this task on. I was going to use the World of Wonder website as a reference for merging episodes into RuPaul's Drag Race: Untucked, but it seems even that website and the entry for Untucked are not even in agreement with each other on what episodes belong to which seasons. For example, episodes listed in "season 5" on that WOW website are in "season 6" in the entry for RPDR: Untucked.
On the other hand, maybe that WOW website is the one that has the seasons wrong (and the tmdb entry has got it right) because I think that the first season of RuPaul's Drag Race:Untucked was a web series called Under the Hood of RuPaul's Drag Race that aired on LogoOnline.com that accompanied season 1 of the original show, RuPaul's Drag Race. In that WOW website, the episodes listed in the first season are the episodes that accompanied the second (not the first) season of the original competition show. I'm not sure whether or not to follow that WOW website and whether the first season should be the season that aired online that accompanied season 1 of the main show or the season that aired on TV that accompanied season 2 of the main show.
I added "Under the Hood of RuPaul's Drag Race" (and "Under the Hood") as alternate titles for RuPaul's Drag Race: Untucked...but maybe a separate entry should be created for it? Or maybe not; the RuPaul's Drag Race wikia lists it as Season one of RuPaul's Drag Race: Untucked...
and this article says that "In its second year, the behind-the-scenes component was retitled “RuPaul’s Drag Race Untucked” and moved off the web to TV” so maybe it does belong as the first season of RuPaul's Drag Race: Untucked (and no seperate entry should be made for it).
Should there be a network for "LogoOnline" created (to add as a network for RPDR: Untucked)?
Additionally, that WOW website has episodes for a "season 9" that are episodes that accompanies the first season of the spin-off show RuPaul's Drag Race All Stars. I would have thought that that season was the first season of RuPaul's Drag Race All Stars: Untucked and not the 9th season of RuPaul's Drag Race:Untucked (which is how it is currently entered into the db- the episodes are found here in season 1 of TMDB's entry for RuPaul's Drag Race All Stars: Untucked!
Or maybe, the WOW website is correct and that there should be no separate entry for the All Star version of Untucked? (And that the episodes should be moved from RuPaul's Drag Race All Stars: Untucked! into a season in RuPaul's Drag Race: Untucked)
EDIT: Also, I don't think there was a season of Untucked for season 2, 3 or the currently airing season 4 of RuPaul's Drag Race All Stars, and so I think all the episodes here should be removed.
Reply by Banana
on January 19, 2019 at 10:42 AM
I believe Under the Hood and Untucked are two different series. So I created a new TV entry for Under the Hood and fixed the mismatching seasons of Untucked. I also created an alternative order that matches the RuPaul's Drag Race seasons.
p.s. I didn't really check the newer seasons. There might be some incorrect/missing data.
Reply by tmdb24407783
on January 19, 2019 at 11:26 AM
Cool! Thank you so much!
One question:
What made you decide that they are two different series? (I intend to provide evidence for why the entry for RuPaul's Drag Race: Untucked on TVDB should match how you have organised the episodes/seasons to get it changed by a mod there- i.e. that the season "Under the Hood" should not be listed as the first season of "RPDR: Untucked"- that the first season of Untucked should be the following season that accompanied season 2 of the main show)
EDIT: Also, I want to add episode overviews for season 1 of Under the Hood. I notice you entered one for episode 1! Where did you get that overview from (so that I could add the rest)? Or did you just move it from the entry for RPDR: Untucked?
Reply by Banana
on January 19, 2019 at 12:04 PM
A few things like:
edit:
I wanted to add them too but, unfortunately, only the page for the first episode was archived.
Reply by tmdb24407783
on January 19, 2019 at 12:16 PM
I think this episode should be removed. I believe there was only 7 episodes of season 1 of Under the Hood. I believe the mistake might come from the fact that episode 7 of RuPaul's Drag Race season 1 was a Recap episode. "Confronting Rebecca" I believe is the 7th episode of Under the Hood (but accompanied the 8th episode of season 1 of RuPaul's Drag Race). Or am I wrong?
Reply by Banana
on January 19, 2019 at 12:20 PM
Done!
Reply by tmdb24407783
on March 16, 2019 at 10:42 PM
Hi, so I am currently working on/considering adding episode images for (as many of the seasons) all seasons of RuPaul's Drag Race and RuPaul's Drag Race Untucked using these sources:
1) http://www.logotv.com/shows/rupauls-drag-race/episode-guide 2) http://www.vh1.com/shows/rupauls-drag-race/episode-guide
But before I start with the untucked episodes, I saw that most episodes already have backdrops uploaded by you at a resolution of 1920 x 1080. Did you upload those yourself (and from what source)? Or did you just reupload them/they were uploaded by someone else on to the Specials section and you just moved them accordingly. I'm asking because so far the episode backdrops from logotv.com are fairly small in resolution and if there is a better, as in, higher resolution, (and also official) source that you were using then I'd rather use that.
Reply by Banana
on March 17, 2019 at 12:52 AM
@tmdb24407783 I only remember adding images from https://worldofwonder.vhx.tv/rupaul-s-drag-race-untucked (skipped the really bad ones).
Reply by tmdb24407783
on March 17, 2019 at 1:54 AM
I think the user, Las Series created this "10th" season of Untucked, and added episodes, for the season of untucked that accompanies the 10th season of the original series, RuPaul's Drag Race. However, as previously decided by you, @banana_girl, that season is the 9th season of Untucked, not the 10th. Las Series has created a duplicate season of season 9 of Untucked. Please remove the season/episodes.
Additionally, please also move this "11th" season Las Series created to the 10th season instead.
Reply by tmdb24407783
on March 17, 2019 at 2:29 AM
Would you/a mod end up deleting them (the ones you skipped in seasons 1-5) anyway eventually- i.e. is there no point in me uploading them or did you just skip them because you didn't have the time to bother with lower quality images but wouldn't delete them if another user (i.e. me) uploaded them? (I haven't actually got to checking the quality of those images).
Did you also skip season 6-8 (these seasons on Untucked have no episodic backdrops at all)? The quality of most, or at least some, of the images are good enough for me for episodic backdrops...but then again I have virtually no experience adding episodic backdrops and place the importance of quality not as high for episodic backdrops as I do for series/film backdrops. I'm about to add images for season 8 of Untucked.
Reply by tmdb24407783
on March 17, 2019 at 8:28 PM
@banana_girl Where did you get the info for this episode? I think it should be removed; I don't think it is correct...
? It's not here. Isn't it a duplicate of this episode on the original show's entry (it is an episode of a regular season RuPaul's Drag Race)?
Lol, I might be wrong...
but
if I am, could you please tell me where you got it from (so I can upload an image backdrop and add the episode to tvdb)?
Reply by Banana
on March 17, 2019 at 8:34 PM
The ones I added are BAD. The ones I skipped are worse. Don't waste your time.
I only moved the episodes to the right seasons. So if you're sure that one doesn't exist, I can remove it.
Reply by tmdb24407783
on March 17, 2019 at 8:45 PM
But I have a lot of time on my hands...I'm here to pass time so...I'm not sure if I'll take your advice. If a mod wouldn't end up deleting them, then I'm more than happy to waste time adding them, because it would only be a waste of time for me if a mod would end up/be justified in removing them.
EDIT: Also you were referring to seasons 1-5 of untucked right when you say "the ones I skipped"? You're not referring to seasons 6-8 which you added no episodic backdrops to, right?
EDIT x2: I would assume you wouln't be justified in deleting them? If episodic backdrops can be as small as 400x225. Why would you set the episodic backdrop minimum size requirements so low if you weren't okay with low quality episodic backdrops? Or would you recommend downscaling those "worse" image backdrops (i.e. down to a width of 400 pxls) before uploading them?
I don't have any evidence that it does exist (not that I really looked for it), its not listed in the that website, and it sounds like from the Episode title and the episode description that it is likely a duplicate of that other episode. But am I sure it doesn't exist? No. I'm not sure.