This film is fun to watch and technically impressive, but dear lordy what a dated story! It's one of the early 20th century pro-Empire movies, glorifying England's colonial presence with a thick patriotic slant which I honestly thought was satirical for half the movie. The way the old men browbeat the poor kid for reading poetry, equating it with cowardice, and the way these old men constantly recite their stuffy war tales made me think the film was more along the lines of the sarcastic jabs Powell/Pressburger took at the war mentality in Colonel Blimp (which got them lowkey blacklisted by Churchill). It was kinda shocking to realize that this story actually is a patriotic drumbeat, shaming any young man who opposed war.
The thing is, I can forgive the propaganda in this film given that it was made in 1939, right as England was being drawn into WW2. It's for the same reason that I accept Hitchock's heavy handed propaganda in his films around that time. Historical context is part of the movie experience. And the original 1902 book was written at a time when British imperialism was much in vogue, full of adventure and discovery. So it makes sense that the early 20th century would favor this story.
But why does this story keep getting remade? I count 6 times, as recently as 2002. Haven't audiences cooled off to British colonialism the same way Americans have cooled off toward cowboy & Indian films?
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Reply by genplant29
on December 28, 2023 at 2:08 AM
This is a movie I've watched at least a time or two, decades ago, that I recall not enjoying (for whatever reason[s] I've since forgotten) or getting any extent of in to. A bit surprising, as I'm a lifelong fan of the Kordas brothers' fine productions, plus a lifelong fan of always-terrific Ralph Richardson and C. Aubrey Smith.
I'm thinking it's the cast otherwise that didn't click with me.
Reply by rooprect
on December 28, 2023 at 6:43 AM
Same here, it definitely took me a while to get into, but I forced myself to like it because I bought the Criterion blu-ray 😅
Aside from the issue I mentioned above, I had a hard time figuring out who we’re supposed to be rooting for. John Clements is the protagonist which made Ralph Richardson seem like the villain at first, since his first few scenes show him sulking as the jilted rival for the lady’s affections, then insulting our hero for cowardice. So it was hard for me to have sympathy for Richardson’s character when things went wrong on the battlefield. Add to my confusion the fact that our hero was in disguise for most of the film, so it was hard to feel any emotion for him either.
But Ralph Richardson’s performance of being blind was really amazing, and he finally won me over. Then I figured out that they’re all comrades, no hard feelings or rivalry. Who knows, maybe that fakeout was the intent, but it was just kinda disorienting.
Probably could use a 2nd viewing!
Reply by northcoast
on December 29, 2023 at 1:05 AM
Rooprect, now that is not fair. You have piqued my interest with that statement but you have left no list.
I want the list.
Reply by genplant29
on December 29, 2023 at 1:12 AM
Per Wikipedia, there's been:
1915 (US), 1921 (UK), 1929 (US), 1939 (UK), 1955 (UK), 1978 (UK), and 2002 (US).
Reply by northcoast
on December 29, 2023 at 1:26 AM
Thank you, genplant.
Interesting that the British 1939 version was filmed in colour, considering-- at least from what I understand --there was a severe shortage of (already rare) colour film stock in the U.K. during the 1930s.
Rooprect, you are absolved.;)
Reply by rooprect
on December 29, 2023 at 2:37 PM
😂 Nice to know I can drop a questionable factoid and @genplant29 has my back! (Usually I can count on @bratface as the truth police but it must be a busy week…)
I didn’t think about how hard it was to get colour stock in UK 1930s but you’re right. I think that’s a large part of the film’s appeal, I can’t think of too many (actually any) UK films in colour at that time.
Reply by bratface
on December 30, 2023 at 8:11 AM
Here are a few color films made in the UK in the 30s (there are probably many more):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knowing_Men
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_Parade_of_1935#Production_background_and_preservation_status
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pagliacci_(1936_film)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wings_of_the_Morning_(1937_film)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mikado_(1939_film)
Here is a list of early color feature films:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_early_color_feature_films#List_of_films
Here is an interesting article about the use of 'colour' film in the UK:
https://www.bfi.org.uk/features/glorious-adventure-colour-films-britain