Third to say how much I utterly adore Forbidden Planet! It still astounds me how incredible the effects are for a movie released in 1959. Leslie Nielsen was perfect for the lead, Walter Pidgeon never better, and Anne Francis was gorgeous. Truly a landmark film! Oh how I wish I'd been born early enough to see it in the theater.

And one of the theories as to why no advanced civilizations exist is that they've never survived the age in which they achieve nuclear fission because they wipe themselves out. Personally I think it's because we're too primitive to detect them and we're too primitive to be interesting enough to investigate. (Oh, and that whole relativity thing.)

Also loved B5 as well and Ivanova.

Pf Ivanova. Give me Lyta Alexander all the way. Redheads ftw, and a real life stuntwoman to boot! Rose!

Also a great fan of the film!

Did you know that the Disney studio lent the production some animators to hand-draw the invisible creature? Yes, that's how Vfx were made back then!

@AlienFanatic said:

Also loved B5 as well and Ivanova.

Pf Ivanova. Give me Lyta Alexander all the way. Redheads ftw, and a real life stuntwoman to boot! Rose!

Ouch! I take back my invitation to the Near Dark forum now (j/k)

@Will Barks - As it happens, yes I did know that. They did a fantastic job don't you think?

This was Leslie Nielson before he found he enjoyed comedy more than straight acting. It was nice to see him doing straight acting.

Another interesting thing about this movie; I read that Gene Roddenberry was inspired partly by this film in his creation of the original pilot for Star Trek in which Capt Pike met an advanced race of big headed people who could create illusions to fool his crew. Also he used the concept of a federation with a fleet of space exploring ships. Interesting bit of trivia.

I liked seeing a young Earl Holliman in the film. He seemed like a veteran soldier with a taste for hooch.

@tmdb65271336 said:

Third to say how much I utterly adore Forbidden Planet! It still astounds me how incredible the effects are for a movie released in 1959. Leslie Nielsen was perfect for the lead, Walter Pidgeon never better, and Anne Francis was gorgeous. Truly a landmark film! Oh how I wish I'd been born early enough to see it in the theater.

And one of the theories as to why no advanced civilizations exist is that they've never survived the age in which they achieve nuclear fission because they wipe themselves out. Personally I think it's because we're too primitive to detect them and we're too primitive to be interesting enough to investigate. (Oh, and that whole relativity thing.)

1956 was the year of release for FB. Yes, Miss. Francis sure was. Also, props and costumes from this movie and bits of the film itself ended up on Twilight Zone which, like FB, was also made at MGM.

The Fermi paradox is easily explainable when you consider the humongous gap in technology. Do you really think a species a million years more advanced has any interest in making themselves known to us? When was the last time you introduced yourself to a chimpanzee? (politicians, excluded 😁)

Wasn't this movie the first appearance of 'Robbie the Robot'?

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0049223/mediaviewer/rm1706413056?ref_=ttmi_mi_nm_sf_1

@movie_nazi said:

The Fermi paradox is easily explainable when you consider the humongous gap in technology. Do you really think a species a million years more advanced has any interest in making themselves known to us? When was the last time you introduced yourself to a chimpanzee? (politicians, excluded 😁)

See how the Bible is amazingly scientifically accurate like with round Earth and jet streams and ants storing food for the winter and far more and you will see that man is the center of the universe made by God.See books by Ray Comfort or a few of my postings on the subject and learn God is interested in man and you can forget the hypothetical aliens from outer space

I definitely believe this is the most plausible answer to the Fermi Paradox. Our local universe has been around for at least 13.7 billion years. Imagine our planet Earth which has only been around for 1/4 of that, and how in such a short time life spread, literally like a virus, to every inch of land & sea (don't forget bacteria). Our star system is one of the youngest in the universe. Without a doubt, there have been many, many, MANY life giving planets before us. So by the viral nature of life, there should be living things inhabiting every speck of dust in the universe by now.

If even 1 species in the entire universe managed to master interstellar travel, by now its mark would be apparent on every thing, even if it's just in the form of bacteria they sneezed out while visiting other planets. The crux of the Fermi Paradox is rooted in the "infinite monkey theorem" - given enough time, every possible thing will happen.

So the stunning silence of the universe can only be explained by 1 logical conclusion. Interstellar travel is not possible.

Next we ask why isn't it possible? Here's where theories can abound. Physically it's possible. Voyager I (1970s technology) is already outside the solar system, so it's not like there's a physical barrier. The barrier must be "behavioral". Here on Earth we're seeing the Krell playbook in action. Although it's easy to say humans are an aberration--that other lifeforms out there must be much wiser--I say no. Humans evolved the same way every living thing evolves, by conquering and subjugating all other lifeforms in order to survive. In a sentence, humans won the game because we're the biggest a-holes. Now that we're at the top, are we (or any other conquering species) suddenly going to become wise, benevolent pacifists? Not on your life. We lived by the sword, we'll die by it. Same rules apply across the universe. The winner loses.

@rooprect said:

I definitely believe this is the most plausible answer to the Fermi Paradox. Our local universe has been around for at least 13.7 billion years. Imagine our planet Earth which has only been around for 1/4 of that, and how in such a short time life spread, literally like a virus, to every inch of land & sea (don't forget bacteria). Our star system is one of the youngest in the universe. Without a doubt, there have been many, many, MANY life giving planets before us. So by the viral nature of life, there should be living things inhabiting every speck of dust in the universe by now.

If even 1 species in the entire universe managed to master interstellar travel, by now its mark would be apparent on every thing, even if it's just in the form of bacteria they sneezed out while visiting other planets. The crux of the Fermi Paradox is rooted in the "infinite monkey theorem" - given enough time, every possible thing will happen.

So the stunning silence of the universe can only be explained by 1 logical conclusion. Interstellar travel is not possible.

Next we ask why isn't it possible? Here's where theories can abound. Physically it's possible. Voyager I (1970s technology) is already outside the solar system, so it's not like there's a physical barrier. The barrier must be "behavioral". Here on Earth we're seeing the Krell playbook in action. Although it's easy to say humans are an aberration--that other lifeforms out there must be much wiser--I say no. Humans evolved the same way every living thing evolves, by conquering and subjugating all other lifeforms in order to survive. In a sentence, humans won the game because we're the biggest a-holes. Now that we're at the top, are we (or any other conquering species) suddenly going to become wise, benevolent pacifists? Not on your life. We lived by the sword, we'll die by it. Same rules apply across the universe. The winner loses.

These dates above are impossible to prove. The Bible is the answer like I said before here and elsewhere ( see my postings).

@Benton12 said:

@rooprect said:

I definitely believe this is the most plausible answer to the Fermi Paradox. Our local universe has been around for at least 13.7 billion years. Imagine our planet Earth which has only been around for 1/4 of that, and how in such a short time life spread, literally like a virus, to every inch of land & sea (don't forget bacteria). Our star system is one of the youngest in the universe. Without a doubt, there have been many, many, MANY life giving planets before us. So by the viral nature of life, there should be living things inhabiting every speck of dust in the universe by now.

If even 1 species in the entire universe managed to master interstellar travel, by now its mark would be apparent on every thing, even if it's just in the form of bacteria they sneezed out while visiting other planets. The crux of the Fermi Paradox is rooted in the "infinite monkey theorem" - given enough time, every possible thing will happen.

So the stunning silence of the universe can only be explained by 1 logical conclusion. Interstellar travel is not possible.

Next we ask why isn't it possible? Here's where theories can abound. Physically it's possible. Voyager I (1970s technology) is already outside the solar system, so it's not like there's a physical barrier. The barrier must be "behavioral". Here on Earth we're seeing the Krell playbook in action. Although it's easy to say humans are an aberration--that other lifeforms out there must be much wiser--I say no. Humans evolved the same way every living thing evolves, by conquering and subjugating all other lifeforms in order to survive. In a sentence, humans won the game because we're the biggest a-holes. Now that we're at the top, are we (or any other conquering species) suddenly going to become wise, benevolent pacifists? Not on your life. We lived by the sword, we'll die by it. Same rules apply across the universe. The winner loses.

These dates above are impossible to prove. The Bible is the answer like I said before here and elsewhere ( see my postings).

How can you say the Bible is accurate when "God" himself endorsed slavery? Are you going to tell me that the Almighty omniscient one himself hadn't figured out humans owning humans is bad? The Bible is so full of holes a middle schooler could point them out. Even a 12 year old can see the utter ridiculousness of Noah's Ark.

@movie_nazi said:

@Benton12 said:

@rooprect said:

I definitely believe this is the most plausible answer to the Fermi Paradox. Our local universe has been around for at least 13.7 billion years. Imagine our planet Earth which has only been around for 1/4 of that, and how in such a short time life spread, literally like a virus, to every inch of land & sea (don't forget bacteria). Our star system is one of the youngest in the universe. Without a doubt, there have been many, many, MANY life giving planets before us. So by the viral nature of life, there should be living things inhabiting every speck of dust in the universe by now.

If even 1 species in the entire universe managed to master interstellar travel, by now its mark would be apparent on every thing, even if it's just in the form of bacteria they sneezed out while visiting other planets. The crux of the Fermi Paradox is rooted in the "infinite monkey theorem" - given enough time, every possible thing will happen.

So the stunning silence of the universe can only be explained by 1 logical conclusion. Interstellar travel is not possible.

Next we ask why isn't it possible? Here's where theories can abound. Physically it's possible. Voyager I (1970s technology) is already outside the solar system, so it's not like there's a physical barrier. The barrier must be "behavioral". Here on Earth we're seeing the Krell playbook in action. Although it's easy to say humans are an aberration--that other lifeforms out there must be much wiser--I say no. Humans evolved the same way every living thing evolves, by conquering and subjugating all other lifeforms in order to survive. In a sentence, humans won the game because we're the biggest a-holes. Now that we're at the top, are we (or any other conquering species) suddenly going to become wise, benevolent pacifists? Not on your life. We lived by the sword, we'll die by it. Same rules apply across the universe. The winner loses.

These dates above are impossible to prove. The Bible is the answer like I said before here and elsewhere ( see my postings).

How can you say the Bible is accurate when "God" himself endorsed slavery? Are you going to tell me that the Almighty omniscient one himself hadn't figured out humans owning humans is bad? The Bible is so full of holes a middle schooler could point them out. Even a 12 year old can see the utter ridiculousness of Noah's Ark.

Yeah, I’m not sure how the Bible is relevant to the discussion unless the point is to throw the whole thread into chaos. Talking snakes, people turning into pillars of salt, growing out of someone’s rib, and a supreme being who wipes out all lifeforms just because 1 species sucks. Wait actually that last bit might explain the Fermi Paradox 😉 ok carry on

@tmdb67572229 said:

According to the Drake Equation there are billions of stars in our galaxy and, even using fairly conservative estimates, that means there is the possibility for dozens or even hundreds of technological civilizations out there. Fermi asked the question, "So where is the evidence of them?" I think we have our answer in this movie. Technological civilizations wipe themselves out once they develop "Clarke Tech." That is, "technology sufficiently advanced as to be indistinguishable from magic." Such was the fate of the Krell in this movie. Will it be ours too?

This was an old movie when I saw it as a kid and it scared the $#!+ out of me. I must have been 10 or 12 and that Id monster gave me nightmares for a month. I love this movie. I know it's really dated but it's still a classic.

I think the biggest problem is likely to be overlap. Even if there have been other advanced civilizations out there, the likelihood of them being anywhere near the same stage of development as humans, at any given time, are miniscule. And in terms of radio waves, for example, for us to be receiving their radio waves now, if they were thousands of light-years away, they would have had to be sending them thousands of years ago. Even if they did exist, they might be dead now. And vice reversa: if some other species were to receive our radio waves, they would be having to listen thousands of years from NOW, by which time we may be long extinct.