@MongoLloyd said:

@Nygma-0999 said:

Frankly the more i hear about this. The less i care about it. Im sorry, But i want to see some actual evidence before i jump on the "Everyone Guilty" bandwagon. But conveniently there isn't any. You know everyone has a Smart Phones. But nobody could get a video of Kevin Spacey humping someone leg on the set of House of Cards.

Oh, I'm well past my saturation point and every time another another cog in the Hollywood entertainment machine shows up and claims someone raped them, I have to laugh. Really ALL this proves is that every-friggin-one above the line in that industry is a whore.

No duh, Hollywood has always been a cesspool

@Nygma-0999 said:

Frankly the more i hear about this. The less i care about it. Im sorry, But i want to see some actual evidence before i jump on the "Everyone Guilty" bandwagon. But conveniently there isn't any. You know everyone has a Smart Phones. But nobody could get a video of Kevin Spacey humping someone leg on the set of House of Cards.

I imagine Spacey would have that person literally destroyed.

@simian_ninja said:

@Nygma-0999 said:

Frankly the more i hear about this. The less i care about it. Im sorry, But i want to see some actual evidence before i jump on the "Everyone Guilty" bandwagon. But conveniently there isn't any. You know everyone has a Smart Phones. But nobody could get a video of Kevin Spacey humping someone leg on the set of House of Cards.

I imagine Spacey would have that person literally destroyed.

If by "destroyed" you mean blackballed, yeah. I know someone who was blackballed for not going along with a gatekeeper's demand to have sex. The interesting thing is most of those being outspoken NOW about impropriety in the past chose not to report the sex crimes when they occurred. They ALL were fully capable of reporting these crimes AND capable of working in another industry or in another market.

@Nygma-0999 said:

Frankly the more i hear about this. The less i care about it. Im sorry, But i want to see some actual evidence before i jump on the "Everyone Guilty" bandwagon. But conveniently there isn't any. You know everyone has a Smart Phones. But nobody could get a video of Kevin Spacey humping someone leg on the set of House of Cards.

I guess Spacey essentially admitting to it and apologizing isn't enough for you. smh

@MongoLloyd said:

@Nygma-0999 said:

Frankly the more i hear about this. The less i care about it. Im sorry, But i want to see some actual evidence before i jump on the "Everyone Guilty" bandwagon. But conveniently there isn't any. You know everyone has a Smart Phones. But nobody could get a video of Kevin Spacey humping someone leg on the set of House of Cards.

Oh, I'm well past my saturation point and every time another another cog in the Hollywood entertainment machine shows up and claims someone raped them, I have to laugh. Really ALL this proves is that every-friggin-one above the line in that industry is a whore.

Well that's all very true these days about whatever happened to Hollywood except that they say that they'd rather be called party sluts because of P/C-ness.

The hard part to figure is why they say that that accuser also runs around with hot guys and then turns around to claim that Kev is not hot? Whatttt? C'mon, why did you come onto him then? That is really bad when they take the side of a money-hungry hypocrite over a Kev.

Still, he's not famous around here, so yes, there are much better places to relocate than hateful money-swindling places like Hollywood or DC. Hey, if Kev were to stop by here for lunch, then nobody would look passed his obvious hotness and not even know who that is except maybe more rumors would begin to fly.

Just like in church, where they're supposed to get on well, but the hatred is so thick that you cannot cut it with a knife because they'll grab that knife right out of your hand and then use your back for target practice, claiming that it's their knife, not yours, not the church kitchen's, and not God's knife.

So, they still wouldn't know the Kev there, either, but if Hollywood's in the market for major rumors, then they ain't got nothing on the churches in this poor, unfortunate, hapless and hopeless burg, so Kev fans at least have something to cheer about, or at least until they find a better church which does not stab you in the back, blame you for the bloodshed, and then make up all kinds of additional rumors about you and Kev.

Really bad time to come out as gay, he could've come out twenty years ago it wasn't like if he's a sex symbol or typecast as a tough guy so didn't matter to anybody other than to him, his coming statement was partly to trying link homosexuality with pedophilia which gotten people's heads exploding mostly those who are openly gay in the industry, saying "I molested a kid because I'm gay" is a deflection and is unacceptable, people who assault or harass don't do it because they're gay they do it because they have the power and choose to abuse it.

@MickyMac said:

saying "I molested a kid because I'm gay" is a deflection and is unacceptable, people who assault or harass don't do it because they're gay they do it because they have the power and choose to abuse it.

Spacey was trying to come off as a victim of sorts. He couldn't just say he did all of it and he's sorry, he had to suggest that he's a part of an oppressed class which is a b!tch move. Didn't Harvey Weinstein suggest that he was a victim also?

@MongoLloyd said:

@MickyMac said:

saying "I molested a kid because I'm gay" is a deflection and is unacceptable, people who assault or harass don't do it because they're gay they do it because they have the power and choose to abuse it.

Spacey was trying to come off as a victim of sorts. He couldn't just say he did all of it and he's sorry, he had to suggest that he's a part of an oppressed class which is a b!tch move. Didn't Harvey Weinstein suggest that he was a victim also?

Think anyone who is accused of assault or worse will always try to come off as a victim by saying stuff like "I'm mentally ill" or "I'm gay".

Saying he's part of an oppressed class is very outdated, it's not like in the days of Rock Hudson where you have to pretend to be straight, and also used the outdated stereotype of touching up young boys because your gay, everyone can see his coming out for what it is, as you can see even the gay community is very very very unhappy about how it played out and all the openly gay actors are calling it for what it is, Here's from Zachary Quinto

“It is deeply sad and troubling that this is how Kevin Spacey has chosen to come out,” Quinto said. “Not by standing up as a point of pride — in the light of all his many awards and accomplishments — thus inspiring tens of thousands of struggling LGBTQ kids around the world. But as a calculator manipulation to deflect attention from the very serious accusation that he attempted to molest one.”

“I am sorry to hear of Anthony Rapp’s experience and subsequent suffering. And I am sorry that Kevin only saw fit to acknowledge his truth when he though it would serve him — just as his denial served him for so many years,”

Why are we talking about this. It happened a year ago.

@Moviedibert345 said:

Why are we talking about this. It happened a year ago.

Welcome to the interweb.

Now all charges against him has been dropped, what will happen? Will he do a comeback at some point, or is his career lost forever? I don't think he'll be able to shake this off, but then again, it IS Hollywood we're talking about.

@Bananaghost said:

Now all charges against him has been dropped, what will happen? Will he do a comeback at some point, or is his career lost forever? I don't think he'll be able to shake this off, but then again, it IS Hollywood we're talking about.

Hollywood is changing now. I don't think anyone would wanna be around him because he's creepy, he's a person's non grata.

Well, attitudes in Hollywood, Broadway and D.C. differ a lot from Interior America, where you also find many differing opinions among Red and Blue places, and even in the same subset groups, you're going to find splinter groups fighting out these gender-base problems, and even among splinter sectors, they're going to talk about their own cliques behind their backs.

Meanwhile, even members of the same church are going to fight among themselves and behind one another's backs, which they would gladly scrape with marbles just to try to make themselves look better in the eyes of members of their own sub-set splinter cliques, who actually talk behind their backs anyhow, so there's no getting around the fact that nobody's going to agree with Spacekey even though they don't know what he's talking about.

But what is very unfair is for that minor to come out and out Kev behind his back because that's nobody's business in any part of any country, and besides, what's a minor doing partying in an adult's apartment at 4:30 in the middle of the night if he's supposed to be a decent kid in the first place.

No, no, that's not fair to Kev, and it does nothing to harm his reputation because Kev says that it would have been unfortunate for a kid to go into an adult's bedroom at 4:30 AM to get molested by someone so plastered that nobody else knows what goes on (unless the alleged perpetrator has been nominated to the Supreme Court or something because then everybody else is wrong except for the bully tyrants).

Also this wouldn't harm Kev's career because whoever sat through a Spacey movie in the first place? Sure, he's good on "Saturday Night Live," but you're only as good there as the supporting cast, and that's usually a hit or miss although this season, maybe about three or four of the not ready for prime time players actually have any talent.

Therefore, Spacekey gossip doesn't amount to anything except as bully bully reputation smearing because in Interior America, you still get tied to trees and whipped by redstater bullies where it's more legal to tie them to trees than to unleash them, so gay reputation smearing isn't their main weapon although neither the smears nor the ropes hold back their Lesbian friends there.

Bottom line, Kev does the right and decent thing to keep his life to himself, and even though his movies are not seen around here, he still has some respectful fans who have also been talked about by some mean church cliques, who have also been bullied by redstaters, and who have been abandoned by their own social networks for reasons never explained although victims of those vicious IMDb trolls would have something to relate to here even though nobody understands why, right?

I have to say though, that all those in charge and in control of any projects Spacey was involved with are partially to blame for fostering an atmosphere that allowed him to be the monster he became. Not to mention all those lower level people who "played along" and waited years later to blow the whistle.

I've seen this dynamic play out once first hand with a B lister on a low budget indie film where essentially sexual ish harassment was totally unrecognized by the filmmakers while a volunteer production assistant quit and went home crying.

Prolonged sexual harassment in a civilized society doesn't happen in a vacuum.

@rudely_murray said:

Spacey's apology - The Guardian

Kevin Spacey coming out as gay will shock no one, but for it to happen this way... frankly, I find it disturbing and gross that Spacey's immediate response to Anthony Rapp's statement was a public admission of his sexuality, as if it in any way excuses what he (allegedly) did. It smacks of being an attempt at deflection, and that will not do him well.

I do wonder if any other allegations about him come out now that Rapp has spoken. Either way, Spacey is done, I think.

Nobody cares if he's gay it was a very open secret, he chose not to go public with it that was totally his choice it's not like he's a heartthrob he's a character actor so it wasn't a issue to anybody other than to him it would seem.

All his statement did was confirm he was a sexual predator, not too long after that more was going to come out.