Spacey's apology - The Guardian
Kevin Spacey coming out as gay will shock no one, but for it to happen this way... frankly, I find it disturbing and gross that Spacey's immediate response to Anthony Rapp's statement was a public admission of his sexuality, as if it in any way excuses what he (allegedly) did. It smacks of being an attempt at deflection, and that will not do him well.
I do wonder if any other allegations about him come out now that Rapp has spoken. Either way, Spacey is done, I think.
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Reply by simian_ninja
on October 30, 2017 at 8:17 PM
This entire thing is going to dismantle Hollywood. And it's probably a good thing considering the amount of them that are up their own ass. If only Feldman actually came forward instead of waiting for a payday.
Reply by Bananaghost
on October 31, 2017 at 6:20 AM
Yep, he's def. done - Netflix just announced they're cancelling "House of Cards" after this season, and he'll have a very difficult time to find a new gig after this.
Reply by MongoLloyd
on October 31, 2017 at 7:15 AM
Don't forget that he's also a producer and happens to be worth $50 Million dollars. I think he'll be ok.
As soon as people calm down and realize that sort of trying to have sex with a 14 year old isn't nearly as bad as actual "pedophilia," then Spacey will be getting roles and more than likely another series and more movie roles. Especially in Europe where the age of consent is 14 in many EU countries.
I think it's pretty sad that people have to keep parroting the factually incorrect "pedophilia" claim.
Reply by Bananaghost
on October 31, 2017 at 8:59 PM
It doesn't matter - Harvey Weinstein happens to be worth $200 million dollars, and he'll not coming back any time soon. Kevin Spacey is a lightweighter compared to Weinstein, and no one wants to work with him now - he's become person non grata just like Weinstein and Bill Cosby.
Reply by Amy Poehleroid
on October 31, 2017 at 10:44 PM
They had already planned this as the last season long before these allegations came to light.
How would you know that? This just happened. Are you in touch with industry insiders?
Spacey was only 26 and drunkenly made a move on a 14 old, once, 31 yrs ago. It's creepy AF for sure, but he didn't molest him or threaten him, and unfortunately, the industry is filled with creepier people than him that will relate to him. Unless other people come forward with similar stories about him, I doubt it will have any long term impact on his career - he's a skilled, established actor and well known producer.
btw His net worth is estimated at $100 million.
Reply by Bananaghost
on November 2, 2017 at 1:33 PM
Don't take me wrong, I too think it's a bit of a witch hunt that's going on for the moment, but you(?) Americans have a tendency to overreact because the utterly ridiculous political correctness wave you're riding at the moment, and everybody around Kevin Spacey is now busy washing their hands and taking distance to him, faster than a F-1 car can run, and that's why I still think he's done and he'll not be coming back any time soon. On top of that, Netflix has now put the shooting of the last season of "House of Cards" on hold for an "undecided" period of time. That's a hell of a lot of money they're waving goodbye to, and they don't do that lightly - it's a big decision.
About the $200 mill. Okay, it was just a guess.
Reply by Amy Poehleroid
on November 2, 2017 at 1:49 PM
Yeah, it looks like you were right. I wasn't expecting more people to come forward. I think his acting career is pretty much toast, at least for a while. He may still be able to be a silent partner in production deals though.
I meant Spacey was worth $100 million.
Reply by censorshipsucks06
on November 3, 2017 at 5:21 AM
Here's the thing - Hollywood would forgive Spacey. I mean look at how they have turned Roman Polanski into a victim, if not an outright HERO. They also adore Woody Allen, no matter what kind of deviate he is. Why? Because it appears that Hollywood is a haven for this kind of behavior - especially the "Casting Couch" and serial abuse of women. Then they have the gall to lecture everyone else on human rights. Ugh - it's pathetic. Just like the Catholic Church - clean your own house up please. And that does not mean sweep the mess under the rug.
But regardless of whether or not Hollywood re-embraces Spacey, it's likely most audiences wont. Movie theaters and revenues in general are way down Y2Y, and the spiral is increasing. For a variety of reasons. News like this will only hurt the industry even more. Certainly can't help.
Netflix announced less than 18 hours after the Spacey story broke that this would be the final season. They CLAIM they had made the decision months ago. However, the timing is VERY coincidental. My guess is they were thinking of ending HOC, but this made the decision pretty easy. I'll also speculate as to why the production has shut down. First, they are probably re-writing scripts to make sure the ending is permanent, and leaves no doors open that there might have actually been an additional season or two. Second, because they need to check their insurance situation and liability for having Spacey on the set in the event another issues occurred. In other words, they need to get their legal status secured. Lastly, they will likely go and interview each and every crew member and actor and make sure they have no issues continuing to work with Spacey, and likely will have them sign a document saying so.
Now, Spacey and Harvey aren't going to be wondering where their next meals are coming from. But the fact they are worth millions of dollars doesn't mean they can't get into serious financial trouble pretty quickly if the revenue well dries up. Mainly because they have lifestyles that require continual large sums of cash in order for them to be sustained. Having their revenue stream cut, and the possibility of legal entanglements, they could find themselves in a cash-poor situation relatively quickly.
I for one will be pissed if HOUSE OF CARDS production is permanently shut down. And I don't mind that it's ending, as it's begun to become a bit absurd. But if it happens - so be it.
One last thing - this is HARDLY a "witch hunt". That implies that these people are innocent - and that's far from the truth. Weinstien is a serial abuser of women (that's becoming self evident more and more each day). While Spacey and now Dustin Hoffman apologize for 'behavior they can't remember'. Which means they can't offer a full-throated denial. Probably because they know that these current accusers are just the tip of the iceberg. Because if you HONESTLY were innocent, the first reaction is to attack the accuser and LOUDLY deny it. Not give some halfass apology and then deflect it by 'coming out'. A witch hunt is when innocent people are persecuted. So far, I have yet to see any of that.
Reply by halomaniac88
on November 3, 2017 at 7:19 AM
I think he is done, not just as an actor but will be shut out of the industry
Reply by simian_ninja
on November 3, 2017 at 8:26 PM
Agreed. I can't imagine the audience forgiving him. He's alienated the LGBT crowd by using his homosexuality or bisexuality as a deflection. I just read that he's also been dumped by his talent agency and publicist.
Whole lot more is coming out about his behavior on set of House of Cards.
Reply by Bananaghost
on November 4, 2017 at 1:40 PM
Netflix have now announced, that they're redrawing from the production of "House of Cards" and they will not release the movie "Gore" with Kevin Spacey in the lead role, as the author and writer Gore Vidal.
Reply by halomaniac88
on November 4, 2017 at 7:37 PM
All this drama for what. Be honest to yourself
Reply by MongoLloyd
on November 5, 2017 at 7:50 AM
Well... he is being accused of sexually harassing 8 cast members of HoC. I'm pretty open minded but that's pretty bad.
Reply by Nygma-0999
on November 7, 2017 at 3:13 AM
Frankly the more i hear about this. The less i care about it. Im sorry, But i want to see some actual evidence before i jump on the "Everyone Guilty" bandwagon. But conveniently there isn't any. You know everyone has a Smart Phones. But nobody could get a video of Kevin Spacey humping someone leg on the set of House of Cards.
Reply by MongoLloyd
on November 8, 2017 at 3:55 AM
Oh, I'm well past my saturation point and every time another another cog in the Hollywood entertainment machine shows up and claims someone raped them, I have to laugh. Really ALL this proves is that every-friggin-one above the line in that industry is a whore.