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Release The Snyder Cut Confuses Danny Elfman, He Claims Zack Snyder Never Finished It

Danny Elfman had this to say about the situation.

"Well, the thing is, he never finished it. So, I don't know quite how they'd do (a Snyder cut). He had a tremendous tragedy, which forced him to not finish the film. I don't quite understand this, because it wasn't like he was fired, and that there is a Director's Cut that is a finished movie and that the studio fired him and then hired Joss."

Danny Elfman provided the score for the theatrical cut of Justice League, so he has a bit more authority when it comes to information on the Snyder Cut and its existence than most. The composer also went on to dispel another report about the movie, which claims that Zack Snyder was fired from the project and that the theatrical cut changed his movie drastically. Elfman explains.

"When Joss came on the film, he stepped in with only a few days' notice, to pick up the helm because of this terrible, terrible tragedy that happened. So it is kind of a unique situation. I mean, there is definitely other movies where the director was fired, and a studio radically changed the movie because they didn't like it. And as a fan, you go 'I wonder what the director did, before the studio changed the movie.' But I'm not really aware of how that dynamic would really apply here."

https://movieweb.com/release-the-snyder-cut-justice-league-danny-elfman/

J. Momoa

SYNDER CUT

Well let’s be honest if it wasn’t for this man we wouldn’t have Aquaman I love u Zachary synder. Mahalo for showing me the synder cut. Here is a token of my appreciation. Leica Q2 for inspiring me as an artist through and through @leicacamerausa I wish I was a better actor but I can’t lie. The Snyder cut is ssssiiicccckkkkkk

https://www.instagram.com/tv/B1U1rmigdlY/?utm_source=ig_embed

@Triksy said:

Movieweb

Release The Snyder Cut Confuses Danny Elfman, He Claims Zack Snyder Never Finished It

Danny Elfman had this to say about the situation.

"Well, the thing is, he never finished it. So, I don't know quite how they'd do (a Snyder cut). He had a tremendous tragedy, which forced him to not finish the film. I don't quite understand this, because it wasn't like he was fired, and that there is a Director's Cut that is a finished movie and that the studio fired him and then hired Joss."

Of course there is a rough ZS cut that will cost WB a lot of money to make ready for theater or streaming. The tragedy happened in March 2017. And according to reports, ZS took a two weeks break. Then he either left or got fired in May. Apparently, WB saw the cut and was horrified by it. With a November release date, they panicked and hired JW to oversee the reshoot.

Now that I'm thinking about it, maybe ZS should have stopped when the tragedy happened. Although, they say that artists are more creative when something bad happen in their lives, Musicians make good songs after a breakup. But what happened to ZS wasn’t a breakup. A sad or hate song after a breakup could sound good. But too much sadness in a comic book film doesn’t sound right.

So either grieve inspired ZS to create something good that he simply couldn’t finish because he had to take a proper break to heal or grieve made him create a dark monster that WB had to tell him to take a break to heal. My money is on the latter. ZS like darkness. I think he went too dark. Is very unlikely that grieve suddenly made him like colors.

@Triksy said:

J. Momoa

SYNDER CUT

Well let’s be honest if it wasn’t for this man we wouldn’t have Aquaman I love u Zachary synder. Mahalo for showing me the synder cut. Here is a token of my appreciation. Leica Q2 for inspiring me as an artist through and through @leicacamerausa I wish I was a better actor but I can’t lie. The Snyder cut is ssssiiicccckkkkkk

https://www.instagram.com/tv/B1U1rmigdlY/?utm_source=ig_embed

@HCFan said:

Polygon

Vero has received plenty of attention over the past week. The nearly three-year-old app went from fewer than 150,000 downloads to approximately three million users in one week, reportedly making it one of the most downloaded apps in more than 18 countries, according to Time.

Thousands of newcomers have already grown bored with Vero, but Snyder’s fans continue to hang around, waiting for the director to post more behind-the-scenes photos.

https://www.polygon.com/2018/3/6/17086700/zack-snyder-vero-justice-league-snyder-cut

JM used ZS to promote Leica cams and ZS uses JL stuff to promote Vero.

@Cashmere said:

Supporters of the # want HC to use it. Haters of the # don’t want HC to use. Whatever HC does with the silly # is fine by me. It’s hard to fault someone for moving on or for being curious.

Not everything has to be done on social media. People still have telephones. Maybe HC called ZS to explain why he won't use the # and ZS understood.

I think that celebs shouldn't do things like this. That way people won't be able to say that you supported that # but refuse to support this # or that you support this # but couldn't support that #.

Well, except HC’s and JM’s shirtless torsos. BA had a gut, FGS.

@HCFan said:

Boss Logic

One day 🤔🙏 @henrycavill

https://www.instagram.com/p/B5MO59xgMsC/

Girls, everybody is excited. HC is still SM and TW is being praised. A possible BAvSM and SMvBrainiac are not beyond the realms of possibility. But when will HC have time to do a full SM film or even an SM appearance in another film? Word in geek valley is that TW will start shooting February 2020 and BA somewhere around the end of Q2 or the start of Q3. Maybe TW‘s S2 won’t take 8 months to shoot, but I don’t think it would be less than six.

Screen Rant

Justice League: Zack Snyder Says Not To Lose Hope Over Director's Cut Release

It's been two years now since Justice League was released in theaters and yet fans continue to campaign for Snyder's original vision to be released.

Unfortunately, recent reports have labeled the Snyder Cut release a pipe dream. As such, some fans have understandably begun to lose hope. One fan in particular even reached out to Snyder in particular, expressing his dwindling positivity and urging the director to say something. Snyder soon obliged. Replying directly, he had one simple word to offer: "Don't". The context and meaning are crystal clear, with Snyder urging fans not to give in to such doubts and to hold on to hope.

https://screenrant.com/justice-league-zack-snyder-cut-release-rumors-response/

ZS shamelessly continues to get fans all worked up. Why doesn’t he do something for his fans? Release the ZS cut as a graphic novel. Use stills and the exact dialogue from the film. Or release it on HBOM as a documentary. The CGI and editing don’t have to be finished. He can show all the footage that he would have used in the film from beginning to end with commentary from him and others while also showing some BTS stuff. I don’t think this will cost WB lots of money, but I’m certain that it will give HBOM’s subscriber numbers a serious boost.

@Blue-Rose said:

Girls, everybody is excited. HC is still SM and TW is being praised. A possible BAvSM and SMvBrainiac are not beyond the realms of possibility. But when will HC have time to do a full SM film or even an SM appearance in another film?

Good question. Although, it’s said that TW will be shot in a studio in London. Maybe that would make a difference?

Variety

DC Films Plots Future With Superman, Green Lantern and R-Rated Movies (EXCLUSIVE)

The studio has less clarity on what to do with Superman…

To help find a way to make Superman relevant to modern audiences, studio brass has been polling lots of high-profile talent. There have been discussions with J.J. Abrams, whose company Bad Robot recently signed a massive first-look deal with the studio, and there was a meeting with Michael B. Jordan earlier this year with the “Creed” star pitching Warners on a vision for the character. However, Jordan isn’t ready to commit to taking on the project since filming doesn’t seem likely to happen for several years and he has a full dance card of projects. Insiders think that a new Superman film is unlikely to hit screens before 2023, given that there’s no script and no director attached.

So the Jordan rumor wasn’t a bad joke? Making Superman black will make him relevant to modern audiences? Moving on.

Another rumor is that Abrams will replace Cavill with 26-year-old David Corenswet.

Entertainment head Diane Nelson, there were too many decision makers involved, leading to the lack of a clear vision. They also maintain that Warner Bros. erred by initially rushing movies in the hopes of making release dates that had been snapped up before scripts were even fully in place. Emmerich has made righting the DC ship a key priority since taking control of the studio in 2017.

“Their initial mistake was that they tried to do too much, too fast,” said Robbins. “They were trying to copy the Marvel model, but that took time and years of building up characters. You can’t start with a big ensemble movie. You need to earn that.”

https://variety.com/2019/film/news/dc-comics-superman-michael-b-jordan-green-lantern-aquaman-birds-of-prey-1203415757/

IGN

Henry Cavill ... Wants to Focus on the Future of Superman

Cavill said, "I would rather talk about what is going to happen in the future – the future of Superman, how I can express that character from the comic books. Which, ties in nicely to Man of Steel, I really like that movie, and I'd like to be able to tell the story where it was left at that point."

When asked by McCarthy if that Superman story will continue, Cavill said smiling, "I can tell you nothing, unfortunately. I can tell you nothing. But it would indeed be awesome."

https://www.ign.com/articles/2019/12/03/henry-cavill-doesnt-know-if-a-snyder-cut-actually-exists-but-wants-to-focus-on-the-future-of-superman

@Triksy said:

Variety

DC Films Plots Future With Superman, Green Lantern and R-Rated Movies (EXCLUSIVE)

So the Jordan rumor wasn’t a bad joke? Making Superman black will make him relevant to modern audiences? Moving on.

So MBJ pitched an SM idea and then realized that he has no time to commit. He thought that production would start right away. I think that’s a rumor created to see how fans will react about a black SM.

Well, I don’t want a black SM. And if I wanted one, I wouldn’t cast MBJ. He doesn’t look the part. It seems as if MBJ hasn’t learned anything from his Johnny Storm aka Human Torch fiasco. Now he wants to play an even more iconic white super hero. Please, stick with black characters. He was perfect as Black Panther’s nemesis.

Another rumor is that Abrams will replace Cavill with 26-year-old David Corenswet.

That’s more than just a rumor among geeks. Some outlets wrote about it. The same very credible outlets that had no idea that McQ was also involved in the pitching of MOS 2 and called TW HC’s plan B. They had no idea that HC harassed Netflix for more than a year for TW.

Now that HC has confirmed that he’s still SM, outlets had to find another way to keep saying that his future as SM is still up in the air. They found a younger actor that resembles HC a little to use in their story.

@Triksy said:

Another rumor is that Abrams will replace Cavill with 26-year-old David Corenswet.

Everybody keeps forgetting that HC has one more SM and that contracts can’t be broken without consequences. But one day HC will have to pass the cape to someone else. When the time comes, if he passes it to David Corenswet, I’ll be cool with that.

@Blue-Rose said:

That’s more than just a rumor among geeks. Some outlets wrote about it. The same very credible outlets that had no idea that McQ was also involved in the pitching of MOS 2 and called TW HC’s plan B. They had no idea that HC harassed Netflix for more than a year for TW.

Exactly! They didn’t know about McQ. And they keep ignoring that WB wanted McQ to help fix the DCEU while McQ wanted to stick to his original plan and idea for GL and MOS. But WB was already in talks with JJA to do a GL and an SM film and fix the DCEU. I don’t think that anybody really thinks that JJA closed a $250 mln deal with Warner Media overnight.

Now that HC has confirmed that he’s still SM, outlets had to find another way to keep saying that his future as SM is still up in the air. They found a younger actor that resembles HC a little to use in their story.

First, the narrative was that JJA wants a younger SM. Then people started saying:

• a younger BM doesn’t mean that SM has to be young too (look at WW84);
  
• they can make HC younger with CGI;
  
• an older and younger SM can be in one film.
  

The next step was to give the younger SM a face to give the rumor more weight. Click!

@Blue-Rose said:

That’s more than just a rumor among geeks.

I know. I just didn’t feel like giving it too much attention. Sometimes I think that outlets just use what the geeks say on chat boards in their articles.

@Cashmere said:

Exactly! They didn’t know about McQ. And they keep ignoring that WB wanted McQ to help fix the DCEU while McQ wanted to stick to his original plan and idea for GL and MOS. But WB was already in talks with JJA to do a GL and an SM film and fix the DCEU. I don’t think that anybody really thinks that JJA closed a $250 mln deal with Warner Media overnight.

It didn't happen overnight. There was a bidding war in 2018 among the major studios and streaming giants for Abrams' production company, Bad Robot.

Hollywood’s biggest bidding war in the past year [2018] has been over Abrams’ services …

The Star Wars: The Force Awakens director and his production company Bad Robot are the prizes at the center of an intense bidding war between nearly all major Hollywood studios and streaming giants …

McQuarrie and Cavill pitched their idea just before the release of M:I-Fallout. My guess is that the pitch happened in July 2018. That was roughly seven months after Justice League's release.

A lot was going on in that Summer. The reorganization that followed after Justice League and the bidding war for Bad Robot. Warner Bros. needed Abrams’ help to fix the DCEU more than ever.

Unfortunately, major studios and streaming giants weren’t bidding to get McQuarrie’s original idea. So pleasing Abrams was a priority and he seems to be a major fan of Superman and Green Lantern. He almost made the Superman film “Superman: Flyby.”

So the timing (bidding, reorganization), the plan (solo instead of part of the DCEU) and the chosen superheroes (Superman, Green Lantern) were all wrong. McQuarrie could have let go of his original idea and help fix The DCEU, but he simply didn’t feel like it. But things have changed. Warner Bros’ new organization doesn’t feel like fixing the DCEU anymore. They are focusing on solo films now.

Cosmicbook

Henry Cavill Responds To Superman No Longer Being Relevant Claims

"I'd like to delve more into the aspect of Superman [that] we traditionally know, coupled with where we left him with Man of Steel," Cavill explained to ET Online. "It's the hero who is trying to exist in a world where people may say he's not relevant anymore -- where, actually, he's extraordinarily relevant and it's him coming to terms with that and becoming that relevance and showing people that hope does exist without it being too chocolate box."

Following the reports about Superman not being relevant, noted comic book and sci-fi writer Neil Gaiman chimed in with: "You don’t make it relevant. You make it inspiring."

https://cosmicbook.news/henry-cavill-superman-relevant

@Triksy said:

So the Jordan rumor wasn’t a bad joke? Moving on.

When you don’t have some black blood in you, comments like that can be easily misunderstood by someone with some black blood in them. Do you care to elaborate?

Having asked that, why doesn’t WB give Cyborg a film? All the other JL characters have their own film. If EM wasn’t busy with another big franchise, Flash would have been in pre-production too. So, why is the only black hero left out?

So the Jordan rumor wasn’t a bad joke? Making Superman black will make him relevant to modern audiences? Moving on.

I know that many super heroes were written in a time in which white was right. Now we live in a time in which all the colors of the rainbow are right. Yeah, keep dreaming. We all know that’s not true. But that’s a discussion for another day.

Anyway, I don’t think we should make white iconic heroes another color. Let’s create black heroes or let’s try to make an unknown black hero popular. Take a look at Black Panther. I wasn’t really aware of him. I don’t think that anybody thought that his first film would make over $1 billion. But it did. And now he’s one of the popular heroes in the MCU.

I don’t see why WB/DC can’t do the same with one of their black heroes. Off the top of my head, they have Cyborg, Icon and Black Lightning. Do something with them and leave SM alone. I heard of a black SM that isn't CK. Even so, SM is too well known as white. Let him stay whiter than marshmallow with jet black hair, baby blue eyes and a strong square jaw with a cleft chin. Except for the jet black hair, the rest is Henry Cavill.

@Triksy said:

It didn't happen overnight. There was a bidding war in 2018 among the major studios and streaming giants for Abrams' production company, Bad Robot.

Hollywood’s biggest bidding war in the past year [2018] has been over Abrams’ services …

The Star Wars: The Force Awakens director and his production company Bad Robot are the prizes at the center of an intense bidding war between nearly all major Hollywood studios and streaming giants …

McQuarrie and Cavill pitched their idea just before the release of M:I-Fallout. My guess is that the pitch happened in July 2018. That was roughly seven months after Justice League's release.

A lot was going on in that Summer. The reorganization that followed after Justice League and the bidding war for Bad Robot. Warner Bros. needed Abrams’ help to fix the DCEU more than ever.

Unfortunately, major studios and streaming giants weren’t bidding to get McQuarrie’s original idea. So pleasing Abrams was a priority and he seems to be a major fan of Superman and Green Lantern. He almost made the Superman film “Superman: Flyby.”

So the timing (bidding, reorganization), the plan (solo instead of part of the DCEU) and the chosen superheroes (Superman, Green Lantern) were all wrong. McQuarrie could have let go of his original idea and help fix The DCEU, but he simply didn’t feel like it. But things have changed. Warner Bros’ new organization doesn’t feel like fixing the DCEU anymore. They are focusing on solo films now.

Didn't know everybody wanted Bad Robot.

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@HCFan said:

I heard of a black SM that isn't CK. Even so, SM is too well known as white.

A black SM that’s not CK, you say? Never heard of him. Hancock is the closest thing to a black SM I know.

@Blue-Rose said:

MOS was a decent movie, but BvS was bad and stupid. Why? Because a mere human hero in a bat suit should not be the opponent of an almost immortal alien hero in a big budget film. So let me repeat what the geeks have said countless times. Do you see CapA fight Hulk, Thor or the big Iron Man? No. The mentally stable people from the MCU let CapA fight the small IM. They let Hulk fight Thor or the big IM.

ZS is either a terrible storyteller or just sick in the head. I say the latter, because he claims to know the SM and BM stories.

It’s possible to have SM v BM, but green K isn’t the way to go about it. Many already said that nobody in their right mind wants to see a hero beat up a sick villain, let alone beat up another hero. ZS could have given those who want to see SM and BM fight a fair match. He should have used gold K, not green K.

Gold K first appeared in the comics from the 1960s. It takes SM’s powers without making him sick. The only problem is that Gold K’s effect is irreversible. But filmmakers like to change things, don’t they? I’m sure they would have found a way to give SM his powers back. They brought him back from the death with the mother box. He inhaled green K and recovered without the sun. Don’t forget that green K can kill him by simply being near him. Now it was in his body and it was night. In the Christopher Reeve film SM was supposed to lose his powers permanently once he entered the de-powering chamber. Guess what? He got his powers back.

@Sue-Yin said:

ZS is either a terrible storyteller or just sick in the head. I say the latter, because he claims to know the SM and BM stories.

I think that something is a little off with ZS. Who names their production company Cruel and Unusual Films? Since January this year it’s called The Stone Quarry.

ZS could have given those who want to see SM and BM fight a fair match. He should have used gold K, not green K.

There’s a black SM and a gold K. Well, I’ll be damned.

Anyway, I don’t think gold K would have helped BvS. SM and BM shouldn’t fight each other. Period! Without K, SM will kill BM by simply breathing next to him. With gold K, you will have a simple man fight Bruce Lee or Jean Claude van Damme. BM is a master martial artist, because he relies on that to fight crime. SM doesn’t have to rely on that. Oh boy. Weird that he was able to beat three of Krypton’s best soldiers. Keeping it simple isn’t ZS’s strong suit, now is it?

OK, let’s say they didn’t know how to control their new powers. That’s BS because what they needed was strength, durability and invulnerability and they could handle those pretty well. SM, on the other hand, had those and the heat vision. He could have really damaged their suit with it, but he didn’t do that either. What the hell? Maybe it’s not a good idea to analyze this story.

Long story short, where I’m from, if you’re a martial artist, you can’t go all the way on someone who isn’t, even if the person attacks you. I assume that fans wants to see SM and BM go all the way. It was fun seeing CapA v Spidey or Winter Soldier v Black Panther. The MCU managed to keep the powerful ones away from that little civil war.