The Movie Database Support

I'm waiting for the API to update to reflect the release of Alien: Romulus now streaming on Hulu but it still doesn't show it on the TMDB watch providers response. However it does show it on the JustWatch website. So I was wondering, does anyone know when the data will update on TMDB and what timing I should expect? Thanks!

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@lgrube3 said:

I'm waiting for the API to update to reflect the release of Alien: Romulus now streaming on Hulu but it still doesn't show it on the TMDB watch providers response. However it does show it on the JustWatch website. So I was wondering, does anyone know when the data will update on TMDB and what timing I should expect? Thanks!

i think its about the cache, just wait maybe

Thanks. If it's important for me to show this info as soon as it becomes available, how do I clear the cache?

@lgrube3 said:

Thanks. If it's important for me to show this info as soon as it becomes available, how do I clear the cache?

I got the result for US and its already there

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     "provider_id": 10,
     "provider_name": "Amazon Video",
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Thanks! I see it now too in my response but it's more than 24 hours late. I was going to try and build a service that checks for changes in watch providers which would require it to be timely and not cached. Any suggestions on how I might do this?

@lgrube3 said:

I see it now too in my response but it's more than 24 hours late. I

It should be only cached for 6-8 hours based on here

Any suggestions on how I might do this?

I think theres nothing we can do, and Travis already explain it here .

The data are transmitted from JustWatch to TMDB once per 24 hours. After that, our API cache apply.

This is super helpful information and explains why I didn't see the updated information for 24+ hours but unfortunate to hear :(

It's probably too much to ask for more frequent updates from JustWatch given the current agreements in place and a reduced cache time for this API I presume.

Otherwise it doesn't sound like TMDB would make for a timely data source of movies 'now streaming'. Unless there's another path forward that I'm not seeing.

We're limited by the data we get from JustWatch. They only provide us a single daily export. We process it a few hours later, and then if the data is there, it will start appearing on TMDB within ~8 hours. The catch here is if the data is there. Often times there is a day delay (24 hours) on the export we get from JW, so in reality it won't appear until a full day has passed, which is more like ~32 hours later.

@travisbell do you think it would be possible for the data from JustWatch to reset the cache? I realize we don't want to reset the cache for all edits (to prevent abuse) but maybe the JustWatch daily export could reset the cache for any films/series that were updated?

Also related question: Why do I see on TMDB website, Happy Gilmore 2 is streaming on Netflix but in the Watch Providers response for the same movie, we see an empty object returned?

Does the TMDB website get access to the watch providers data before everyone else?

@lgrube3 said:

Also related question: Why do I see on TMDB website, Happy Gilmore 2 is streaming on Netflix but in the Watch Providers response for the same movie, we see an empty object returned?

I just made the API request and received the response below.
Didn't you receive the same response?
Did you receive a blank response?

Does the TMDB website get access to the watch providers data before everyone else?

I don't think so.
JW data is only available once a day.
And I believe the same data is available for both the WEB interface and the API.

https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/1263256-happy-gilmore-2

https://api.themoviedb.org/3/movie/1263256/watch/providers
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}

Yes, it's now available but there was a long delay (many hours) between when TMDB website was showing the Netflix provider and I was getting empty response from watch providers end point.

Like for every other data, there is a cache on the API. They appear immediately on the website and can take up to 8 hours to be available on the API.

This was already explain in the november 2024 discussion.

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