@Poetist said:

Anyway, was it right to have losers punish people still in the game? When did this ever happen on BB? It seems as if BB did want Cody or Jess to win HOH.

I am not a superfan or anything close to it, but I have never seen that happen. It was like a producer induced form of bullying. But most of the losers did it wrong, they should have given all of the punishments to Jessica if they wanted Cody to crack.

They felt Cody was the stronger competitor and wanted him out. Plus, they didn't know what was the punishment. Anyway, this just shows that the production wanted Jess or Cody to lose. Notice that they didn't even offer Cody immunity, when he entered the house. I think they should at least offer that to anyone who wins Battle Back, because it tends to be the case that the houseguests will only vote out the returnee.

Back to the awful HOH competition:

If they HAD to inflict punishment. . .

To make things interesting, they needed to have the loser choose between a prize for themselves or a punishment for others.

@Poetist said:

They felt Cody was the stronger competitor and wanted him out.

I know, but if they had inflicted the punishments on Jess, Cody would have cracked, you see how in last nights comp he took the explosion so she wouldn't get her hair messed up.

Plus, they didn't know what was the punishment.

after the first and second ones , they all had a good idea of what they were, but they still kept giving them to Cody. One of them (forgot who) even said they were going to give Jess the punishment because that would effect Cody even more than receiving it himself.

Anyway, this just shows that the production wanted Jess or Cody to lose. Notice that they didn't even offer Cody immunity, when he entered the house. I think they should at least offer that to anyone who wins Battle Back, because it tends to be the case that the houseguests will only vote out the returnee.

I think it was Jess, because I seriously believe production wants both Cody and Paul in the house-the two alpha males.

To make things interesting, they needed to have the loser choose between a prize for themselves or a punishment for others.

That really would have made it more interesting and less sadistic.

@ScorpionQ2 said:

@Poetist said:

They felt Cody was the stronger competitor and wanted him out.

I know, but if they had inflicted the punishments on Jess, Cody would have cracked, you see how in last nights comp he took the explosion so she wouldn't get her hair messed up.

No, he didn't want her fussing about her hair. Plus, Jess is tough. She took two punishments and Cody didn't lose it.

@Poetist said:

No, he didn't want her fussing about her hair. Plus, Jess is tough. She took two punishments and Cody didn't lose it.

I think if Jess had taken all the punishments Cody did -they both would have lost it. I disagree, I don't think Jess is tough. She is seemingly that way now because Cody is back, I think if he had not returned she would be a basket case by now.

@ScorpionQ2 said:

@Poetist said:

No, he didn't want her fussing about her hair. Plus, Jess is tough. She took two punishments and Cody didn't lose it.

I think if Jess had taken all the punishments Cody did -they both would have lost it. I disagree, I don't think Jess is tough. She is seemingly that way now because Cody is back, I think if he had not returned she would be a basket case by now.

I don't know. Did you see her and Josh go at it? She did try to make amends with Christmas, but they got into an argument. I never once saw her in a corner crying or even giving up.

I don't know. Did you see her and Josh go at it? She did try to make amends with Christmas, but they got into an argument. I never once saw her in a corner crying or even giving up.

Josh is a I wonder when he's going to realize he is just being used and no one really likes him.

Christmas did not like that Jess called her a mean girl and kept interrupting her. No not crying or giving up ( and it's still early) but I just don't think she's tough.

@ScorpionQ2 said:

I don't know. Did you see her and Josh go at it? She did try to make amends with Christmas, but they got into an argument. I never once saw her in a corner crying or even giving up.

Josh is a I wonder when he's going to realize he is just being used and no one really likes him.

Too bad that can't be televised that!

Christmas did not like that Jess called her a mean girl and kept interrupting her. No not crying or giving up ( and it's still early) but I just don't think she's tough.

Time will tell .