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posted by hcoenenSTAFFMOD on March 5, 2024 at 10:49 PM
Item: Doctor Who
Language: en-US
Type of Problem: Duplicate
Extra Details: Please excuse the tone here (this is my way of speaking, no offense meant, can be pretty direct i know but there's nothing personal behind it. please don't take it that way) but the argumentation for keeping this as a duplicate is ridiculously flawed and stumbles over semantics. The amount of discussion should say something in itself i think.
BBC is KING, we should do as they say, follow their holy guide and accept this is a new series.
The very clear evidence of their (BBC/Disney) statement this being actually a new series is flimsy at best as there is none. As stated many times before it looks more that BBC / Disney likes to put focus on a new season and set it apart for now. These are mere interpretations which can work one way or the other.
Let's remember the Capaldi episode literally called "the pilot" which kicked off season 10. Make a seperate series of that too? After all, they wrote it for new viewers.
But Exhibit A: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9vIsQ25Krq8&pp=ygUOZG9jdG9yIHdobyBzMDE%3D
Let's follow the rules, stumble over semantics and make this a seperate series as well? BBC stated it is so this must be according to the rules. BBC is king after all.
Not a season, but series. No cheating, it literally says series.
There are more examples (Youtube/BBC) to be found here in seconds. Please think this over as it seems this is blindly adhering to a rule because of the rule instead of the reasoning behind it.
I really struggle to understand here as the terms series and season are loosely being thrown around and interchanged by BBC themselves.
The only bit of "evidence" that could be seen as credible would be the s01e01 but this has also been pointed out: can be interpreted as the first episode of the first season for the fifteenth doctor.
Reply by Jim Stark
on March 5, 2024 at 11:57 PM
British (and down under) TV mostly uses "series" in the meaning of "season". Series X of the show Y.
I think you're digging too deep, the reason for splitting is much more obvious. According to BBC website, the 2005 show ended in 2022, which is indicated by dates in parentheses here at the old show's homepage https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006q2x0
After that, the show got a whole new homepage, and a new life cycle, also indicated by the date in parentheses https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0gglvqn
They didn't do that when the Capaldi era started, did they?
Reply by hcoenen
on March 6, 2024 at 12:29 AM
Aren't you kind of driving my point home here?
Series/season x of show y? That's exactly the point that has been reiterated for about how many times by how many people? they didn't exactly start a new show. there's a fifteenth doctor, no cancellation, no spin-off. it is still the same show. shouldn't it be treated that way?
the only evidence being a seperate page, again it can be interpreted several ways, is a bit flimsy and gives away the appearance that you seem to adhere to rules by semantics. bbc said it's a new series so it must be. i read the discussions. also, bbc loves changing... notice that on one of your own links the parentheses vanished?
just pointing out some flaws in the reasoning here.
Reply by superboy97
on March 6, 2024 at 3:06 AM
As per our rules, if the broadcaster use a separate page, this should be listed separately here.
The parenthesis are here on the 2 links : First one and second one.
Reply by hcoenen
on March 6, 2024 at 3:42 AM
Which drives home the point: bbc is king, rules are rules. I hope you can see how flimsy the reasoning behind it is.
Agree to disagree