@jedi.jesse said:

Item: Cruel Intentions

Language: en-US

Type of Problem: Duplicate

Extra Details: Duplicate of the TV Movie: https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/1307983-cruel-intentions

That tv movie should be deleted. Cruel Intentions was a failed pilot for a tv show that was cancelled before it aired and that was leaked on the internet and so according to the rules (https://www.themoviedb.org/bible/new_content/59f792cd9251413e93000004#5a6a6a919251416d74000001) belongs as a tv entry (pilot).

I believe this is the correct entry and the other is the duplicate.

see here: https://www.themoviedb.org/tv/287572-cruel-intentions/discuss/67e73360b5655aac42636613

Fair enough. I don't know what the right one is here.

I have an open question here about how to handle one-episode TV shows with no release date (pilots that were never aired/picked up). So, that question would apply to Cruel Intentions as well.

@jedi.jesse said:

Fair enough. I don't know what the right one is here.

I have an open question here about how to handle one-episode TV shows with no release date (pilots that were never aired/picked up). So, that question would apply to Cruel Intentions as well.

I believe you will find in the rules that it says leaked failed tv pilots should have their release dates blanked out, since there was no official air date. imma go find it in the rules...

Edit: https://www.themoviedb.org/bible/new_content/59f792cd9251413e93000004#5a6a6a919251416d74000001

"Pilots that were never picked up to series and were subsequently released to the general public should be added to the TV section with the TV Show Status set to "Pilot". This includes pilots that are leaked on the web, are released digitally, air on television in foreign countries and are released as a special feature on a DVD. Please blank out the first air date field for pilots leaked online. We like to track those pilots with the failed TV pilot keyword."

You're right, it does say that. From a UX perspective, that means failed pilots will show up a the top of the credits for everyone involved... in perpetuity?

Though I did also find this:

Filmed TV pilots unreleased within four years will be deleted.

So, both of these Cruel Intentions entries should be deleted?

@jedi.jesse said:

You're right, it does say that. From a UX perspective, that means failed pilots will show up a the top of the credits for everyone involved... in perpetuity.

Though I did also find this

Filmed TV pilots unreleased within four years will be deleted.

So, both of these Cruel Intentions entries should be deleted?

Well I guess technically cruel intention was released...since it was leaked. I think what "unreleased" means in context of where you got that quote from is "Pilot" is used when a TV pilot is in-production and is planned to air- but is only a pilot. If 4 years passes by and that series/or even that just one pilot episode never ends up being released then it gets deleted because presumably it probably will never get released? (You cant just keep an entry on the database forever just in case one day it could be leaked or professionally aired).

@jedi.jesse said:

You're right, it does say that. From a UX perspective, that means failed pilots will show up a the top of the credits for everyone involved... in perpetuity?

Though I did also find this:

Filmed TV pilots unreleased within four years will be deleted.

So, both of these Cruel Intentions entries should be deleted?

With this quote:

"Pilots that were never picked up to series and were subsequently released to the general public should be added to the TV section with the TV Show Status set to "Pilot". This includes pilots that are leaked on the web, are released digitally, air on television in foreign countries and are released as a special feature on a DVD. Please blank out the first air date field for pilots leaked online. We like to track those pilots with the failed TV pilot keyword."

They are saying pilots that are leaked on the web count as pilots...that were subsequently released to the general public. So by the definition given there, Cruel Intentions (leaked failed tv pilots) was released".

At least that's my understanding, if that makes sense.

@jedi.jesse said:

You're right, it does say that. From a UX perspective, that means failed pilots will show up a the top of the credits for everyone involved... in perpetuity?

When it comes to that issue... I dont have a response/solution