@Nubyan said:

I was hoping they didn't do what they did with an alternate universe or time period. But I guess it was the only way to keep everyone alive. It was very cliché.

That scene threw me off. I think skull face created the scene to make Nick believe he's back in his world. So when skull face started killing everyone Nick's friends in the other side of the mirror were still waiting for him to come back. Does that make sense to you? I just thought of something. When Nick went through the mirror first his stick didn't cross with him. Now I have to rethink everything. Dang. There goes my theory.

@Katwah said:

I just thought of something. When Nick went through the mirror first his stick didn't cross with him. Now I have to rethink everything. Dang. There goes my theory.

I mentioned the same thing about the stick in another thread. Diana said...the stick couldn't go through because it didn't belong there.

Yes, the rest of your post does make sense to me except for that one gnawing fact about the stick.

I want a spin off with Diana, Kelly and the triplets!

@Nubyan said:

@Katwah said:

I just thought of something. When Nick went through the mirror first his stick didn't cross with him. Now I have to rethink everything. Dang. There goes my theory.

I mentioned the same thing about the stick in another thread. Diana said...the stick couldn't go through because it didn't belong there.

Yes, the rest of your post does make sense to me except for that one gnawing fact about the stick.

I want a spin off with Diana, Kelly and the triplets!

Can you imagine what the triplets would look like when they woged. Absolutely cute.

But Eve and Nick were both in the mirror world. Eve went in first. How did Eve get back while Nick was still stuck in there. Also, I knew for sure that the whole thing was fake as soon as Adalind got killed. I suspected it before that.

Also, wth was with the 2 old dead ladies coming back and fighting the thing. Why was the thing indestructable one minute and they were chopping it's limbs off the nest?

Overall, it was a weak finale.

@Taylorfirst1 said:

But Eve and Nick were both in the mirror world. Eve went in first. How did Eve get back while Nick was still stuck in there. Also, I knew for sure that the whole thing was fake as soon as Adalind got killed. I suspected it before that.

Also, wth was with the 2 old dead ladies coming back and fighting the thing. Why was the thing indestructable one minute and they were chopping it's limbs off the nest?

Overall, it was a weak finale.

They were able to defeat it because it fought against grimms from the same bloodline. I guess that was the Achilles heal of skull face and Nick finally coming into possession of the whole staff with missing stick.

I agree, the finale could have been way better and didn't live up to my expectations. I summed it up as cliché in another thread. It left holes and unanswered questions.

I am very confused. Was this all an illusion? Did Nick et al, survive? very cliche for sure. I am truly sorry the show is done though. I really have enjoyed its run.

I enjoyed it very much. I don't know if it was an alternate since the ring was missing from Adalind's hand, and Diana saw everything like Nick. I thought it was a time loop, where the stick reset time with the death of the baddie.

I could pretty much guess once Hank and Wu died last week that, that wouldn't stick; and once Rosalee died, that clenched it. This show wouldn't have gone to the trouble of having Rosalee pregnant, with triplets, only to kill her and keep her dead; and when everyone else bit the bullet it became even more predictable. I was hoping for something more though; predictable isn't strictly bad if it resonates the right way. As much as it might have sucked for Nick to have died, I think I could have made my peace with him sacrificing himself to save the people he loves - like that's the cost of wielding that kind of power with the staff, bringing back not just the people he just lost, but everyone else caught in the Destroyer's path too - maybe taking back that day; which is maybe what he ended up doing.

Nick's mom and aunt coming back felt a little too much like Harry Potter; and the Destroyed, when woged, kinda looked like Voldemort... I had been expecting for a while for Nick to pull the stick out, so to speak, and start using it like a wand. I was annoyed they didn't explain why the stick suddenly couldn't bring anyone back to life. I suppose if it was a false reality, the answer would be that it wasn't the real stick; which might explain the whole thing about it not being able to go to the other side when Nick went through the mirror. On the other hand, that wouldn't explain the big to do about the Destroyer getting it from Nick, or it recombining with the staff; unless the stick was representative of something else, something related specifically to Nick that the Destroyer needed for its own purposes - like his soul, or some residual power that resides in Nick after it brought him back to life. I don't recall if, when Monroe picked up the staff, if it was still whole, but even if it was, it's plausible that when the staff and Nick were drawn through the portal or whatever, it was being pulled in by the stick back in the real reality and recombined upon re-entry.
There are possible explanations, but it would have been better to actually explain them; or at least give the audience more to reasonably infer the answers from.

I also didn't care for the jump forward. Sure, those were technically two characters we know, but we've never seen these two iterations before; it'd be like recasting Nick or "Eve" in the last five minutes of the series. And more than that, we just don't really know these two people at this point in their life; and the generic banter and interaction seemed hokey. "We've gotta kill wesen!" Really? Which one? And why do you need to kill them? Nick never went around killing wesen just for being wesen; he tried to maintain that as a last resort. A series should really give the main characters their due by ending with them, rather than two people we've never seen before, even if we know who they're supposed to be.

We've been watching this series too long we have already predicted the ending. When skull face killed Wu and Hank in one go and Nick couldn't resurrect them, we already knew that everyone would be killed, and defeat of skull face would mean a reverse of everything he did.

And yeah it was a bit too Harry Potter when Mommy Kelly and Aunt Marie appeared but it was nice to see them kick ass one last time. The thing with the little stick is that it has somehow given its allegiance to Nick because it rejects everyone else. Maybe it has something to do with his blood opening the box and releasing it after so many centuries. And since the little stick has given its loyalty to Nick it had to be willfully handed over by Nick so it would rejoin the bigger stick. But when the little stick saw that Nick had possession of the bigger stick it automatically returned to its spot on the bigger stick. This allegiance too is derived from Harry Potter. Even skull face's disintegration is like Voldemort's in the movie.

As with the place beyond the mirror, Dasha explained that it was an opposite reality coexisting with this reality. As long as there is no breach they are two separate realities -- one where skull face is and the other where Diana is. Skull face's reality is overrun by permanently woged Wesen. In Diana's reality Wesen are unwoged. Renard posited that if they were alive in Diana's reality then they're dead in the skull face's reality. Dasha said they're not necessarily dead but in a different circumstance. When the separation between two realities was breached it became one reality.

This is my take on what happened: when Nick defeated skull face its essence reverted back to its reality sucking back the big stick and Nick along with it. But Nick and the small stick (now part of the big stick) do not belong there so they were thrown back to the last stable state (like System Restore on Windows), which was before skull face breached the separation of the two realities that made it one. That is why Nick and Eve were thrown back to Monroe's living room shortly after Diana breached the two realities.

However, this presents a conundrum as to the little stick. The first time around, in the timeline when Nick and Eve returned, the little stick was there because "it didn't belong" at the other side. At the second go around in the same timeline, the little stick should still still be there as such but now so did the reconstituted big stick with the little stick as part of the whole. But it seems like only the big reconstituted stick exists in Nick's reality.

@tunix_2008 said:

However, this presents a conundrum as to the little stick. The first time around, in the timeline when Nick and Eve returned, the little stick was there because "it didn't belong" at the other side. At the second go around in the same timeline, the little stick should still still be there as such but now so did the reconstituted big stick with the little stick as part of the whole. But it seems like only the big reconstituted stick exists in Nick's reality.

A whole staff for which must be guarded well due to its great power...according to Nick's mother. The same staff that Diana held in the trailer at the end when she came to get Kelly to go hunting for wesen with...mom, dad and the triplets.

The ending wasn't the greatest and will go down for me as lack luster. Nevertheless, I truly enjoyed the series as someone else on this thread said and will miss it.