Discuss The Blacklist

Typically I hate to use that term, cause its a one-time event (not a multiple event like I've seen it used in some places) of which there is no turning back. If a show jumps the shark once, even if its ok for the rest of the run, it still happened.

With that in mind...I think we've finally reached that point with the Blacklist.

Now in some folks' minds I'm sure it jumped a while ago. So maybe my threshold is higher. But when you introduce baby Skynet, Skynet Jr., I think we're there. Followed by the episode where the Blacklister was getting men pregnant. Unless this has always been a vaguely sci-fi show and they've finally decided to go full-on sci-fi.

Moving on, I still contend Liz should have died for real when she "died" to accommodate Boone's pregnancy. She's an audience surrogate that has outgrown it's purpose. Now she's just telling ANYONE "Oh by the way that's not really Red", to someone waffling on staying with the task force as it is. And the profiler in her is not questioning why this old woman who would be around the age of her mother is suddenly in her life and suddenly indispensable to her. She knows her mother is alive and is the one who kidnapped Raymond, so this new old lady in her apartment...coincidence, huh. And this is someone we're supposed to root for.

So, the same episode where Frankie dies, is the same episode we're introduced to a new member of the task force (the one that Liz revealed Red's secret to later). I'm guessing that the actress who plays Frnakie got a new offer elsewhere, and that the original plan was for her to be on the Task Force. I like both actresses, and while its sad to see Frankie go I'm looking forward to more Alina, or rather more Alina and Aram working together.

Finally...so wait this guy that's Red's best friend, the one who tracked down Katarina, is somehow Ilyad? Unless Raymond got a friend to take his old face so Ilyad wouldn't disappear...but then again this friend goes by another name anyway. WTF we're in post-jumped-shark territory anyway I'll just enjoy the ride.

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So Liz is now "playing dumb." She has confronted Red about the identity of the "woman from Paris" whether she was Katerina Rostova, her mother. Red is still denying it. Liz refuses to inform Red that she's still alive. So, Red keeps secret from Liz, bad Red. Liz keeps potentially life threatening secret from Red (i.e. Katerina most likely wants Red dead), Liz good. This may be a stupid question, but has it been confirmed that the woman Red saw killed, the woman Liz calls the woman from Paris, is she really Katerina Rostova? Did Red or Ilyad ever address her as such? Because I have to be honest and admit part of me thinks Red is telling Liz the truth; that Katerina died years ago, that the woman from Paris is not her and and so she's lying to Liz.

@revengine said:

So Liz is now "playing dumb." She has confronted Red about the identity of the "woman from Paris" whether she was Katerina Rostova, her mother. Red is still denying it. Liz refuses to inform Red that she's still alive. So, Red keeps secret from Liz, bad Red. Liz keeps potentially life threatening secret from Red (i.e. Katerina most likely wants Red dead), Liz good.

Pretty much.

This may be a stupid question, but has it been confirmed that the woman Red saw killed, the woman Liz calls the woman from Paris, is she really Katerina Rostova? Did Red or Ilyad ever address her as such? Because I have to be honest and admit part of me thinks Red is telling Liz the truth; that Katerina died years ago, that the woman from Paris is not her and and so she's lying to Liz.

No, it hasn't been confirmed. We (as in this board) are the ones speculating she's fake. The show, minus Red, is treating her as real. Red is treating her in such a nebulous fashion that it could go either way, probably as a loophole in case they (the writers) do decide she isn't real.

I'd have to go back and watch, but from the way Ilya is acting, he doesn't know her beyond being the person Red wanted him to find. And I think Red has referred to her as Katarina but never as Liz's mother*. Red is a wordsmith so his omission is glaring. Liz is too dumb to pick up on it, so I think that's meant as a clue for the audience.

  • = again, if my memory is wrong and he has referred to her as Liz's mother in Liz's presence, apologies.

Well it's back next Friday. I'm curious how the show will address Dom and Glen now.

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