Last episode Before the 90 Days:

Brazil: I just can't. Maybe I am too old and out of touch but talking to someone via an app translator is not a relationship. He is just so creepy. How can she stand to go anywhere near him?

Amsterdam: At least we were spared Darcy' s clingy desperation for a week.

Spain: Shame on you, TCL for making us wait another week to meet Cortney's man or catfish.

Haiti: I am starting to think that Sean is Abby's back up plan. I think she really wants Chris but he won't commit to her. Maybe she is trying to make Chris jealous. Maybe there have been others like them. She made some reference to the ones who stay a week or two and then leave.

Paris: Patrick is the most normal of the Americans. I got a vibe from her that she wasn't expecting it to go as far as it has.

Tell All: Nothing more to say.

Florida: Believe the profile when it says she has been active. She is a very pretty girl and she is way out of your league. She can do better and she is still looking for something better. Move on before you get hurt.

@blacknyellowsquid said:

Poetist...Maybe I was being too harsh saying he "liked" it. I guess sometimes when people are being abused, emotionally (and physically like here) it might look really silly to an outsider but it's harder for the one in it. I guess I think way back to the beginning, before she even arrived in America, and she had shut down his phone because he had given her the password and because she was mad that he wasn't going to buy her a certain purse. And he was sort of smiling and sighing like, oh that cute Anfisa, shutting down my phone, isn't she crazy? And I was think dude wtf abandon ship right NOW!!! But he didn't. I think he downplayed all the obvious red flags from the get go. But I do believe he felt they had a bond (when Loren was grilling him), and I think Anfisa might have felt that too.

No, she doesn't get off scott free. And to be fair, she was already realizing he had less money than she thought when she still married him. Just like he still married her knowing she was only in it for money and was already abusive to him. Strange relationship. But the fact she broke up with him not toooo long after the marriage does make it look even more suspicious. She could have left before then as soon as she realized he wasn't the millionaire she wanted.

Like I said, I think his anger is genuine and I don't really feel he should have stood up for her at the dinner with Lourdes (though the leg spreading thing was crass). She would scream at him all the time so he didn't want to say anything to just her. Having someone else say what he's thinking probably was nice, lol. But yeah they are (were?) a toxic couple. And he still shouldn't have lied about how much money he had nor ignore all the obvious red flags about her........just so he could "have" her and magically hope all those problems would disappear.

@jonnieblack said:

Last episode Before the 90 Days:

Brazil: I just can't. Maybe I am too old and out of touch but talking to someone via an app translator is not a relationship. He is just so creepy. How can she stand to go anywhere near him?

I think he's on the spectrum.

Spain: Shame on you, TCL for making us wait another week to meet Cortney's man or catfish.

I know, right!

Haiti: I am starting to think that Sean is Abby's back up plan. I think she really wants Chris but he won't commit to her. Maybe she is trying to make Chris jealous. Maybe there have been others like them. She made some reference to the ones who stay a week or two and then leave.

In some countries, I have seen "Americans" visit their Carribean gfs. I think the mother was mentioning what she has seen on the island w/other women.

Florida: Believe the profile when it says she has been active. She is a very pretty girl and she is way out of your league. She can do better and she is still looking for something better. Move on before you get hurt.

Hopefully, he will LISTEN to the couple who reported the dirt they found to him and run from this chick.

Random comment: Does anyone else think Danielle's "binder of damning texts" against Mohammed could be mostly empty and blank pages? She always goes to those four pages near the center. But I'm willing to bet 90% of the pages are just filler to make it look massive and intimidating. That didn't occur to me till she whipped it out in the Tell All the other night and only hovered near that same middle page.

Binder of Damning Texts.

It would not surprise me. I've always wondered why she focuses on those texts, which prove nothing, instead of the fact that they only had sex once, which is pretty damning.

@blacknyellowsquid said:

Random comment: Does anyone else think Danielle's "binder of damning texts" against Mohammed could be mostly empty and blank pages? She always goes to those four pages near the center. But I'm willing to bet 90% of the pages are just filler to make it look massive and intimidating. That didn't occur to me till she whipped it out in the Tell All the other night and only hovered near that same middle page.

Oh, I think the binder is filled with damning posts, because according to Mo, she stalks him on the net. It seems she's on the job 24/7, so of course, the binder is full.

@blacknyellowsquid said:

Poetist...Maybe I was being too harsh saying he "liked" it. I guess sometimes when people are being abused, emotionally (and physically like here) it might look really silly to an outsider but it's harder for the one in it. I guess I think way back to the beginning, before she even arrived in America, and she had shut down his phone because he had given her the password and because she was mad that he wasn't going to buy her a certain purse. And he was sort of smiling and sighing like, oh that cute Anfisa, shutting down my phone, isn't she crazy? And I was think dude wtf abandon ship right NOW!!! But he didn't. I think he downplayed all the obvious red flags from the get go. But I do believe he felt they had a bond (when Loren was grilling him), and I think Anfisa might have felt that too.

No, she doesn't get off scott free. And to be fair, she was already realizing he had less money than she thought when she still married him. Just like he still married her knowing she was only in it for money and was already abusive to him. Strange relationship. But the fact she broke up with him not toooo long after the marriage does make it look even more suspicious. She could have left before then as soon as she realized he wasn't the millionaire she wanted.

Like I said, I think his anger is genuine and I don't really feel he should have stood up for her at the dinner with Lourdes (though the leg spreading thing was crass). She would scream at him all the time so he didn't want to say anything to just her. Having someone else say what he's thinking probably was nice, lol. But yeah they are (were?) a toxic couple. And he still shouldn't have lied about how much money he had nor ignore all the obvious red flags about her........just so he could "have" her and magically hope all those problems would disappear.

Oh and Johnnieblack...I feel like, wasn't it Danielle's idea to do the show with Mohammed? I don't feel she's as innocent as she pretends to be. I do think it's obvious though that he thought Danielle was a ticket to America. Maybe, just maybe if she had been more sane and didn't have a criminal/fraud record, he would have stayed with her for a little longer...a little. But not forever. So I don't believe when he's all "I totally had the right intentions!" But "fortunately" for him, the fact she is so off the handle makes his case easier to defend. I do get the sense he is generally weary of it all, though.

You're very right. Neither of these couples had the right intentions.

Jorge wanted a "trophy" wife and thought she'd be perfect for him and he could indulge her from time to time and she'd eventually calm down, but she didn't, and she thought she was getting a sugar daddy (I really hate that term but unfortunately it's what fits here). They were both wrong.

I agree that Danielle is not innocent. And I applaud Pao for telling her she needs to stop the bull and move on. But she's so hung up on getting revenge against him that she won't hear what people are saying. She obviously wanted a boy toy and thought Mohamed would be grateful to her for bringing him over and would come to love her. He didn't. All he wanted was the green card and after he got it, and saw what a psycho she can be, and how unstable he is, he left her. But at the same time, from what I saw on the second part of the "tell all," he not only doesn't respect Danielle, he doesn't respect ANY woman. He acts like they should all bow down to him because he's a man. And part of that I'm thinking, is his country. Forgive me, I'm not very good at World Geography, but I'm guessing Tunisia is in the Middle East? So, he expects women to be quiet and listen and comply with what the man says, and basically feels he has the right to tell a woman to essentially shut up because he doesn't want to hear them, most especially if they disagree with his views/comments. Look how he treated Loren and Pao. Whenever they said something he didn't like, he told them to be quiet. He was dismissive of them. I feel bad for whatever woman he does wind up finding and who agrees to marry him. They better like being treated like dirt.

And just because Danielle isn't the prettiest or thinnest person on the planet doesn't mean she deserves to be treated badly. HOWEVER, she brings a lot of her misery on herself. She's a questionably ugly woman on the inside. Her behavior leaves a lot to be desired. I disagree with Mohamed though that she was shedding "crocodile tears." I think she is just very sensitive, and so yes, she does cry easily. That doesn't mean she's trying to play the victim or that she's faking her feelings. Though yes, in this case she likely is trying to play the victim in other ways, but not when she breaks down in tears. I think she just can't help that. She likely gets very overwhelmed by a situation very easily, and very frustrated very easily, and that then translates into an inability to contain her emotions and it spills over in tears.

That's what I see when watching them.

Loren is right though. Anfisa and Mohamed are the types of people who make the K-1 Visa application problematic for the people who are legitimately in love (or think they're in love) and then are given a very hard time when going through the application process. Because they get through and get approved, then things like what's happened on this show happen, and the authorities/government/whomever is in charge of these visas see these issues and the results, and then make it tougher on the legitimate couples who want to be together here.

@Poetist said:

@blacknyellowsquid said:

Random comment: Does anyone else think Danielle's "binder of damning texts" against Mohammed could be mostly empty and blank pages? She always goes to those four pages near the center. But I'm willing to bet 90% of the pages are just filler to make it look massive and intimidating. That didn't occur to me till she whipped it out in the Tell All the other night and only hovered near that same middle page.

Oh, I think the binder is filled with damning posts, because according to Mo, she stalks him on the net. It seems she's on the job 24/7, so of course, the binder is full.

Which is really pathetic. It's over, she lost. It's time to move on. IF she really has this new guy she claims to have, then she needs to focus on that and not Mohamed or she's going to lose this guy too. Because there's only so much crap the guy is going to put up with before he looks at Danielle and says, "Enough. You're nuts. Get over this guy. You're supposed to be with me, but you're still emotionally involved with him. I'm done. Bye."

@Satai Delenn said:

IF she really has this new guy she claims to have, then she needs to focus on that and not Mohamed or she's going to lose this guy too. Because there's only so much crap the guy is going to put up with before he looks at Danielle and says, "Enough. You're nuts. Get over this guy. You're supposed to be with me, but you're still emotionally involved with him. I'm done. Bye."

Okay, I barfed a bit in my hand about thinking a guy is that interested in Danielle, especially to the point that he would be concerned that she is too focused on her ex, because, on top of all of that, I think of what Mo said about that medical problem.

Lol, well, different strokes for different folks, I guess. If she was a good person on the inside, then nothing else matters. But she's not. She's definitely got emotional issues, she probably has some mental issues, but the bottom line is, she is obsessed with Mohamed and refuses to move on. As I've said before, no matter what is legally or technically owed to one, sometimes you just can't win and you have to cut your losses and move on. Yes, the past will stay with you in part, but you have to just keep it as a memory. A bad memory, but a memory.

Moving on to Jorge and Anfisa. He needs to grow up. She hurt him but it's his fault. He knew (or should have known, because she told him) what kind of person she is and he married her anyway. And just out of spite to get revenge he lied on camera just to try and humiliate her. She's not doing anything and she got him to admit it back at the hotel. He's not very smart. I really don't like either one of them, but he's making himself look way worse than anything she ever did to him. I have lost all sympathy for him. He's a man-child.

@Satai Delenn said:

Lol, well, different strokes for different folks, I guess. If she was a good person on the inside, then nothing else matters. But she's not. She's definitely got emotional issues, she probably has some mental issues, but the bottom line is, she is obsessed with Mohamed and refuses to move on. As I've said before, no matter what is legally or technically owed to one, sometimes you just can't win and you have to cut your losses and move on. Yes, the past will stay with you in part, but you have to just keep it as a memory. A bad memory, but a memory.

So true!

Moving on to Jorge and Anfisa. He needs to grow up. She hurt him but it's his fault. He knew (or should have known, because she told him) what kind of person she is and he married her anyway. And just out of spite to get revenge he lied on camera just to try and humiliate her. She's not doing anything and she got him to admit it back at the hotel. He's not very smart. I really don't like either one of them, but he's making himself look way worse than anything she ever did to him. I have lost all sympathy for him. He's a man-child.

I didn't see this. Stupid DVDr. I saw it was scheduled for taping, and it did nothing. It seems I have to tape this dang show twice for some reason.

Yeah, it was at the very very end of the episode. They'd already cut from the taping and there were some additional scenes with everyone afterward. Danielle was trying to catch Mohamed before he left the studio because she's still trying to get him to pay her legal fees which she claims he agreed to pay and he's now refusing to do so.

The cameras followed Jorge and Anfisa to their hotel room where she confronted him and asked him why he lied and I can't remember exactly what he said, but he basically said, "because." So she caught him and got it on film so he cannot deny he lied about her working in an unsavory field, lol.

The cameras followed the others who got into a van together to go wherever they were going and it showed that Alex is frustrated with Loren for speaking out as she did because he feels like she had no right to say the things she said.

And just before the credits rolled, the producers showed that Mohamed is MIA. He's cut his phone, shut down his social media stuff, and is trying to disappear. Meanwhile, Danielle has apparently hired a new lawyer and is trying to sue Mohamed to get her money back, but she doesn't know where he is, so she's basically SOL for now (like I said, she cannot move on. She's obsessed).

As for your DVR, can you not set it to extend for a minute or so beyond the set recording time? I find I have to do that with most shows I record or I lose the ending credits.

Advice for the Before the 90 Days Americans;

Cortney: Buy a train ticket to Barcelona or Madrid and enjoy your three weeks in Spain without Antonio. He is not even boyfriend material, let alone husband material. Plus he is not half as hot as his pictures.

Paul: I got nothing for you. Karine, however, go back to the Brazilian babes website, or wherever you hooked up with Paul, and find someone, anyone, else.

Sean: Wake up and realise that you are Abby's back up plan. She is still into Chris, you know this, so listen to your gut. And stay away from the voodoo while you are at it.

Darcy: Clingy, desperate and insecure is hot, said NO ONE EVER. Accept that this relationship will be short term and enjoy it for what it is. Quit trying to push him into something he can't give you.

Larry (Florida): You do seem like a nice, but not very socially aware, guy. Listen to your friend and his Filipina wife. And the app. Trust the app. She is just playing around with you.

Patrick: Absent this week, but big secrets are never good. Don't get your hopes up too high.

@Satai Delenn said:

The cameras followed Jorge and Anfisa to their hotel room where she confronted him and asked him why he lied and I can't remember exactly what he said, but he basically said, "because." So she caught him and got it on film so he cannot deny he lied about her working in an unsavory field, lol.

No, he didn't lie. It's on the web. Anfisa is doing a little bit of everything, dancing and video camming.

And just before the credits rolled, the producers showed that Mohamed is MIA. He's cut his phone, shut down his social media stuff, and is trying to disappear. Meanwhile, Danielle has apparently hired a new lawyer and is trying to sue Mohamed to get her money back, but she doesn't know where he is, so she's basically SOL for now (like I said, she cannot move on. She's obsessed).

Well, she can thank her lucky stars for Mo not paying her, so now she'll have an "excuse" to keep chasing him.

As for your DVR, can you not set it to extend for a minute or so beyond the set recording time? I find I have to do that with most shows I record or I lose the ending credits.

I have Charter/Spectrum, and I can't seem to do that w/it. When I had Verizon/Frontier, I was able to extend the taping.

Apparently, Danielle is not doing Not to Hot.

Boo!

Here are two reasons why:

http://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/danielle-jbali-mama-june-manager-gina-rodriguez-141487