@komrad said:

They went from Vast, Mysterious, Skilled ninjas (who could mask their heartbeats) to KoolKidsRus hanging out at a compound with a "creepy uncle" cult leader Bakudo getting their asses kicked left and right. As a result of Iron Fist, the Hand is now less intimidating and feels like a non-threat. Any individual superhero can take them out, so what's the point of Defenders again?

They should give Kevin Feige control over the TV verse as well.

But they were ninja's in training right? They weren't the ones Daredevil fought.

You're comparing the elite troops from Daredevil with a bunch of trainees in Iron Fist, it's like comparing the Delta Force squad with inexperienced soldier recruits. The elite are always only about 1-2% of an army.

@MrRadical Thank you you explained it better than me :)

@MrRadical said:

You're comparing the elite troops from Daredevil with a bunch of trainees in Iron Fist, it's like comparing the Delta Force squad with inexperienced soldier recruits. The elite are always only about 1-2% of an army.

Remind me again where in Daredevil they said anywhere that those ninja were elite warriors? Ok, Nabu is an elite warrior, I accept that, but the rest?

Also, Bakudo should have been more of a threat and not be taken out by Coleen like a wimp xD. Sure, he's not dead and will be back, that's fine.

I would have preferred they expand the mystery of Black Sky with Elektra coming back to life and being on the evil side. That would have made for a much better villain. That way they could also introduce Daredevil for the 1st duo teamup with Iron Fist.

Didn't Electra kill a young kid in DD's apartment?? Around the same age as all those trainees/students shown in IF?? Slit his throat. Matt was freaked out about it... Or I remembering this incorrectly?

@komrad said:

They went from Vast, Mysterious, Skilled ninjas (who could mask their heartbeats) to KoolKidsRus hanging out at a compound with a "creepy uncle" cult leader Bakudo getting their asses kicked left and right. As a result of Iron Fist, the Hand is now less intimidating and feels like a non-threat. Any individual superhero can take them out, so what's the point of Defenders again?

No offense, but did you miss the part where the Hand was split into two factions--one side consisting of runaway kids with a "Creepy uncle" cult leader?

@in_the_crease said: No offense, but did you miss the part where the Hand was split into two factions--one side consisting of runaway kids with a "Creepy uncle" cult leader?

If it wasn't for Madam Gao would have never believed them were Hand folks. No clue why she had SWAT team moving on the dojo to save her. Where are the damn ninjas? Like wearing the outfits and shit?