maybe the renegade rap isn't the only one. maybe there are others working on the ship that doesn't like what is planned for the earth. maybe that's why the drones didn't kill brussard and will.

@beith1 said:

maybe the renegade rap isn't the only one. maybe there are others working on the ship that doesn't like what is planned for the earth. maybe that's why the drones didn't kill brussard and will.

It's always possible there are others working behind the scenes, comrades of the one who "went missing". I don't think they're responsible for the list though. It was an elite occupation security team that had that file. For whatever reason it seems like the best and smartest fighters have been selected for some special use down the road and the drones are programmed not to shoot them.

interesting. i guess that plays into what synder said about maddie's son being prepared for what's coming.

@beith1 said:

interesting. i guess that plays into what synder said about maddie's son being prepared for what's coming.

Yes, I noticed that little comment when he was talking to Maddie. Clearly he knows something we still don't. And Maddie was too much in shock to ask him "Trained for what? What's coming?".

i can't decide if snyder is a good guy or a bad one.

@chrisjdel said:

@beith1 said:

maybe the renegade rap isn't the only one. maybe there are others working on the ship that doesn't like what is planned for the earth. maybe that's why the drones didn't kill brussard and will.

It's always possible there are others working behind the scenes, comrades of the one who "went missing". I don't think they're responsible for the list though. It was an elite occupation security team that had that file. For whatever reason it seems like the best and smartest fighters have been selected for some special use down the road and the drones are programmed not to shoot them.

I don't know, but at the beginning we saw that Broussard took money from someone while he was in the military . He was feeling guilty over killing people or doing something illicit, other than what he was there for. He even said he did it because he lost his belief in the reason they had for being there (I'm guessing Afghanistan). In other words, he changed his behavior to suit himself, not the US. Will pretty much did the same thing when he became a cop for them and started locking up the resistance folk to keep his family safe. I think that's the reason the drone didn't kill Broussard or Will. The raps know who can be turned to work in their own best interests (like Snyder) and who can't (the vets we saw get crushed in the building at the beginning).

@Thebridge said: I don't know, but at the beginning we saw that Broussard took money from someone while he was in the military . He was feeling guilty over killing people or doing something illicit, other than what he was there for. He even said he did it because he lost his belief in the reason they had for being there (I'm guessing Afghanistan). In other words, he changed his behavior to suit himself, not the US. Will pretty much did the same thing when he became a cop for them and started locking up the resistance folk to keep his family safe. I think that's the reason the drone didn't kill Broussard or Will. The raps know who can be turned to work in their own best interests (like Snyder) and who can't (the vets we saw get crushed in the building at the beginning).

Broussard had developed a specialized set of skills, he was very good at things the civilian world doesn't have much call for. He had lost faith in the US mission but had difficulty readjusting to life back home. Some vets do. So he signed up with a private security firm and went back overseas. What apparently happened (and this is similar to some real life incidents) is that something went wrong on his team's latest assignment, maybe they hit an insurgent safe house that turned out to be just regular families and no insurgents, whatever it was a bunch of Iraqi civilians died because of their mistake. That guy in the tent came with an official company incident report that he wanted the team to sign. Broussard seemed reluctant, so he basically told him no one in Baghdad or Washington wanted this to become an issue so he shouldn't make it one. In other words if he decided to leak the truth to the press either he'd be discredited or new facts would be "uncovered" that placed the error solely on him. No one was interested in the truth. If anything, Broussard was the only one who showed any sign of having a conscience and being bothered by what happened.

We only know two of the people on that rap do-not-kill list. Both highly intelligent, with special forces backgrounds, qualities that make them exceptional soldiers. Maybe that's not it. Maybe not all of the people on the list are soldier types. It's quite a coincidence though. They want certain people alive for something. It probably fits in with Snyder's remark about what's coming. There's still a lot we don't know about the raps' long term plans, what their ultimate objectives are.

Iirc Broussard did sign that paper even though he had a guilty conscience working on him. Not cool. I just find it hard to buy that whatever he was doing it was on the up and up. Conscience or not he was willing to lie to stay out of trouble. I think this might have been attractive to them. Almost in the same way that Snyder skimming money was just trying to avoid trouble at the beginning when they recruited him. But then again, maybe you're right and he was deemed as useful in a more abstract and significant way to the raps because of these skills. Yeah, it's interesting that at least two soldiers are on that list. Especially when the trailer for next week's episode shows the Red Hats , I thought, being led away from the city for rendition.

@Thebridge said:

Iirc Broussard did sign that paper even though he had a guilty conscience working on him. Not cool. I just find it hard to buy that whatever he was doing it was on the up and up. Conscience or not he was willing to lie to stay out of trouble. I think this might have been attractive to them. Almost in the same way that Snyder skimming money was just trying to avoid trouble at the beginning when they recruited him. But then again, maybe you're right and he was deemed as useful in a more abstract and significant way to the raps because of these skills. Yeah, it's interesting that at least two soldiers are on that list. Especially when the trailer for next week's episode shows the Red Hats , I thought, being led away from the city for rendition.

The red hats might've been getting evacuated to the green zone. The whole reason the world authority notified the Governor General is so that she and the other high ranking officials could get out. They're not sacrificing their own precious skins, just the poor bastards in the rest of the bloc.

As far as Broussard signing the form, in the situation he found himself not signing it would serve no purpose. The company, the US government that hired them, and the Iraqi provisional government, who collectively controlled the facts, would simply have covered their asses by manufacturing evidence to implicate him, probably making him solely responsible for whatever went wrong. If need be, psychological evaluations could be retroactively fabricated and inserted into the record to show a troubled history. He had no proof. Nothing he could offer to contradict the official story. It would be his word against all of theirs. Do you see what I'm saying? It's not quite the same as Snyder going with those two guys out of fear of his past activities being exposed. Broussard wanted to own up to what happened. But with all those powerful interests arrayed against him, all he could do was ruin his own life with no hope of accomplishing anything. So he signed the form, glared at the company guy, walked out and then quit when he got back home.

Yeah, I get it. Right and wrong no longer existed. It was just their way of doing it or nothing, he was up against too much. You're right, it was a portent of things to come. And maybe why he was thrown on the list (for a more positive light on it).

@Thebridge said:

Yeah, I get it. Right and wrong no longer existed. It was just their way of doing it or nothing, he was up against too much. You're right, it was a portent of things to come. And maybe why he was thrown on the list (for a more positive light on it).

I think maybe those people in the cryostasis pods were also on the list. Maybe the raps are fighting a war somewhere and are using them as cannon fodder; or they want an entire slave army, to be bred from the best stock available.

maybe they use them as entertainment like the romans of old.

@beith1 said:

maybe they use them as entertainment like the romans of old.

Or what if the raps are preparing humans - the people on the list, and the ones at the Factory - to fight a war against an even worse enemy that's coming? That could be what Snyder was talking about.

this show better be renewed.

@chrisjdel said:

@Thebridge said:

Yeah, I get it. Right and wrong no longer existed. It was just their way of doing it or nothing, he was up against too much. You're right, it was a portent of things to come. And maybe why he was thrown on the list (for a more positive light on it).

I think maybe those people in the cryostasis pods were also on the list. Maybe the raps are fighting a war somewhere and are using them as cannon fodder; or they want an entire slave army, to be bred from the best stock available.

Cannon fodder, lol. Interesting thought they may breed us for their own purpose ala Dr. Mengele.