Right, I was pretty sure identical twins come from the same fertilized egg, and in one of the first cell divisions it splits into two separate organisms which then develop beside each other. So the DNA is the same, coming from the same sperm and egg. Fraternal twins, I believe, are two eggs and two sperm which combine at the same time. Once an egg is fertilized an instantaneous reaction occurs which blocks the other eggs. It's been a long time since I studied that in college but that is what I recall. So for two eggs to be fertilized the sperms must penetrate them at the same moment. But in the show they never do the DNA test; that was some kind of ploy Seda used when she feared Mete wasn't going to admit he was the father, but he acknowledge it, so the test never happened.

I think a great deal of what is depicted in this show wouldn't happen in real life. I doubt the pregnant mistress would be welcomed into the family home, especially if the mistress was a psycho stalker and the husband wanted nothing to do with her. My impression of Muslim society is that such a thing would bring great shame and disgrace to the whole family. Even though Turkey is fairly western by Muslim standards, I can't see that happening. Suspend your disbelief again. Frankly I can hardly imagine such a thing happening where I live. Maybe, rarely, in California, or in some hippy commune type setting. But regular society? With regular people, and with a wife and mistress who hate each other and are fighting for the same man? No way. I can't see Seda getting away with most of the stunts she pulls, not in real life. Like with that security guard, that time that Yakup had banned her from the building, and Seda told him she was going inside anyway and to keep his hands off or her, and breezed on past. If the owner told security that a specific person was barred from entry, those guys would not let her pass, not matter what sort of histrionic fit she had. I usually fast forward through each of those segments where they play some sad song while showing Mete and Nisan pining for each other, or looking heartbroken or conflicted. It doesn't take a couple of minutes of facial expressions to give us the message, and it doesn't make me empathize with them. It irritates me that I have to go through that crap. I guess the audience over there must like that sort of thing. I also skip many of the ridiculous manipulations scenes where they use the stupidity trope, i.e. Mete is selectively retarded around someone, and some of the scenes where someone gets away with blame-shifting. For some reason they went heavy on that sort of thing for a few episodes.

But you're coming to some episodes where plot developments swing into gear. And once Efe reveals the truth about himself, he starts acting smarter and shows some backbone again. That was nice to see. Seda accused Nisan and Efe of lying to her in order to get Mete free of her, of course. That was a fun scene. When she finally realizes it's true, she cries and then makes it all about her. I think you know whose daughter she is by now. And she gets something BIG in her inheritance. Tell me when you reach that part, not for a while yet.

I have just come to the part where the shoot-out in the factory happened and Ugh was the killer again. Reznat is no more and the police are going to take Nisan in for questioning because they saw her on CCTV with Reznat. Nisan - proving once more that her I.Q. is smaller than her shoe size gets into a car with Seda who promptly tries to do a Thelma and Louise. Yakult hears of this and promptly attacks Seda just as her mommy is coming home from Walmart and he is amazed to see that it is obviously his ex-mistress and realises that Seda is his daughter. I had an idea this was the case because it explained Yakuza's hatred of the families. I don't understand how the meat wrap seller thought that Efe was Efe - he lives in the same place - Efe was a regular customer - are we supposed to believe that he didn't hear about Efe's death? A bearded assassin has tried to smother Mahzar (sorry - I can't remember these names) and I am waiting to see if he has been successful - I doubt he has. Every time I see Seda and her mother I tend to fast forward because they just say the same things over and over again. From the flashbacks it is obvious that Efe and Nisan are falling in lerve. The guy who plays the new police chief I know I have seen him in something before - maybe something we watched together - I recognised him instantly.

Suddenly Yakup is concerned for Seda and her bebe. He doesn't want to kill her anymore or force her to the abortion clinic. He loves Nisan (must be the rotary engine) but now that he knows Seda is his daughter he sort of backs away from that conflict. Seda still doesn't know. Once she finds out she will whine that he never showed her any love. Come on Seda, how could anyone show you any love?...I thought you were further into the show. Sorry, I think I've given away more than I should have, but nothing too much with the plot, and mostly stuff you would have assumed or could easily have seen happening. Resat kept a journal, which is what the "key" is about, and now the team will focus on trying to find it and get more clues. Seda and her mom will whine that Mete's baby will be a bastard and start pressuring him to "do the right thing". There is a big scene coming in a few episodes between Seda and Nisan. It doesn't take long but it has a big impact on things.

I am taking a break from this show for a while. I want to let you catch up some and I kind of need a break. I binged a bit too much and feel burnt out on it. I'm looking at episode 1 of a show called Subat, I think it is another Turkish show. I'll let you know about it after I watch a bit more.

2- OK, Subat is pretty weird. They pronounce his name Shubat (shoo baht) and he is some homeless guy who seems almost autistic but isn't, just talks very little and childish in his thinking. He grew up in an orphanage and survived a fire there which killed most of the others. He seems to have incredible strength and resistance to pain. In a couple of sequences somebody hit him in the back of the head with a stick and a chair and it didn't phase him, just got his attention and he turned around and fought them off. He is infatuated with a newscaster/reporter. There is some gang led by two mentally unstable characters who act fairly clownish. There is a corrupted rich vs. virtuous poor theme to the show. It also features a cop, a lead detective who is honest but has a gambling problem. From what I can see so far the show revolves around this reporter's relationship with the homeless guy, her corrupt, rich, family, and the crazy gang. I can't see what the end game is with the story. There are a couple of story arcs spanning the episodes. I am not sure you would like this one.

I started watching El Cholo, a show about one of the Sinaloa cartel leaders. It has been interesting so far, showing his childhood and a beauty contestant he falls in love with, and the corruption of the Mexican government and army. It is written as sympathetic to this guy el Cholo. I have watched 3 episodes of this and will probably finish it.

Keep me up to date with your progress in the story of Efe, Nisan, Seda, and the gang. I still think it is an interesting story and I will get back to it after a bit. I just needed a break from it for a while.

To be quite honest I am getting very impatient with Efe et al. It is just endlessly repeated scenes with slightly different dialogue. I am on ep 30 and Efe has finally told Nisan that he loves her. He has also married Seda. It is all so absolutely illogical that I have run out of patience. I fast forward every time I see Seda's face. Now she has been told no risky movements or stretching so I am supposing that she will lose the baby via one of her more hare brained actions. Efruz is in love with Efe now and of course Nisan is aware of it. They have rescued Kadim from the hospital and Efe is having flashbacks. The families have met and are socialising awkwardly. They have almost been evicted because Ismael spent all their rent money. Nadide is now becoming a model - Burkat was jealous of her boss in the grocery store and bopped him one so I assume she got sacked. As I say - I skip a lot of it. There is some business about finding a journal in the safety deposit box - it's so handy when people keep incriminating stuff to be found. Nisan has obtained and read it and I think it implicates Yakub so she wont give it to Efe. We are in the middle of a photoshoot with Nadide as I write and it will fill her portfolio for the next twenty years the time it is going on for. Burkat has phoned and has gotten no response - Efe has just found out that Nisan has the journal and is making her show it to him. This will drive a wedge between them no doubt. Seda has turned up at the family meal uninvited and has been given the spare room. I noticed when somebody went looking for Mete's house - they went to the harbour and were told - go across that bridge - turn left and go up the hill - about 300 yards presumably - yet the two brothers never met? Efe and Nisan have confronted Yakub and he is denying all wrongdoing like a good'un. How they can string this out for another 20 episodes I have no idea. I feel like I am being made fun of - lets pile it on until it gets absolutely ridiculous - the punters will love it. This punter is bored rigid with it. Not sure about your current series - they don't sound like my cuppa tea !!!

Oh, the journal was kept by Capt. Rest stop, or Reset, or Resnat, the dirty cop. He was well aware of how Yakup tends to set others up to take the fall when things go wrong and I think this was his get out of jail free card in case the smuggling operation were ever discovered and portrayed as his business, or if Yakup ever tried to screw him in any way, he could always tell him "I've got names, dates, amounts all about your gun running business, so you better retract your accusations against me." Yes it shows that Yakup was well aware of and involved in the arms shipments, proving he lied by saying it was all Mazhar. Nisan is conflicted and her dad tells a story that the company was going under and they thought it would be a one time thing. He is a slick liar. But the arms dealers threatened to kill them if they didn't continue, so he tells them. There was a page torn out of the journal. Nothing they find indicates anything about the 20 year old murder.

I am worried about what they have in the last 12 or so episodes. I've already seen Efe spill the beans to everyone after he finally found proof that Yakup gave the order to kill his dad. A few revealing episodes are coming up soon for you and they are pretty good, compared to what you're been watching, so I don't want to say too much on what you're going to see.

Another common trope is on the way. In television, you always want to see the dead body and confirm it is dead before assuming someone is dead. You'd think these actors would insist on going to the morgue and shooting the corpse through the head a few times, just to be sure, as often as an apparently dead bad guy turned out not to be so dead. That's a hint that someone might not be dead who people think is dead, but you got that already. (That was supposed to be dry humor but text isn't always funny so I had to tell you. Laugh once now.)

Burkat will get jealous and insecure when he picks up Nah-dih-dee after work, and upset when he sees her modeling photos. It's that Muslim culture thing; no other man should be looking at you in sexy clothing, or at all. Turkey is not so bad, not like the Burka countries. Ismail is a worthless slug. He won't like it when he finds out about the modeling either. Fatma should have grabbed the rolling pin and put some knots on his head at that point and shouted at him to get a job so his daughter didn't have to work. They show these really bad sides to him, but they keep treating him like a lovable old guy, well liked despite his many faults.

--Efruz should have picked up on Nisan when Nisan found out she likes Efe. Nisan's facial expression wasn't subtle at all. But Efruz was blind to it. She will make a subtle move on Efe who, now thinking he would be doing Nisan a favor by "setting her free" as her mom asked him to do, will let Nisan see Efruz giving him a hug. Relationship yo-yo stuff.

Yes, with these identical twins living in the same town for 20 years, somebody who knew Mete was sure to go buy some fresh fish at some point and notice his double. It's not like they would just think "you know, that guy looks a lot like Mete". They would flip out and confront him. "I just saw you 20 minutes ago at the office, and now you're down here selling fish? What's the deal? Is this a practical joke?" I guess we are meant to assume that their circles of friends didn't get around much.

Soapy Seda doesn't have a scene in which she doesn't turn your stomach. I am really hoping they don't try to rehabilitate her at the end of the series and have them all playing poker together. If they do that we should hire someone to put a dump truck load of rotten fish heads on the front lawn of the writer.

I worked on a project today. The Japanese have an old method for waterproofing wood I wanted to try. They char the wood, sand it and clean away the burnt dust, then finish it (they used to use pine tar and some kind of oil, but I used a wood water proofing mix plus boiled linseed oil). The wood they treated this way has stood the test of time, sometimes for centuries. I treated the handles on some gardening tools. They were beginning to look a bit weathered and I figured if I didn't do something to them I would wind up having to replace the handles in a few years. I will give them a second coat of linseed oil after I sand them smooth again. I am hopeful I did it right.

You find some interesting things to do - did you read an article on the Japanese method? I think linseed oil is used on cricket bats. I am still watching Winter Sun - albeit with my finger hovering over the ff button. So somebody we think is dead isn't dead - oh dear - it's not a repeat of Glitch is it - we are not going to see a naked Mete clamber out of his grave are we? Ismail is beyond horrendous - I can't imagine why Kadim thought he would be a suitable foster father for Efe - he would be more likely to hire him out as a child chimney sweep. How did they or do they live when he is never in work and gambles all their money away - because Fatma's only work seems to be cooking and Nadide has only just got a job. I know Efe supported them as an adult when he became a fisherman but what about before that? Nisan has now told Efe that she loves him and that she knows he loves her too but he is too much of a coward to say it. As usual Efe just looks tearful and hopeless. Seda has had "a pain" and Efe has run to her side again along with Elfruz - this has set Seda off - she promptly visits Nisan in work and tells her that Efe is carrying on with Elfruz. That woman has got so many bats in her belfry she should be sectioned forthwith. Efe has talked with Burkat and told him how much he loves Nisan - and Burkat has moaned at him for letting Nadide be a model for the company. Nadide is not lacking in self esteem is she - all she says is "Gee - don't I look beautiful" at every photo. Mazhar has now signed over a power of attorney to Efe and he is much more powerful in the company now. He has told Yakub that they will not be gun running any more and Yakub has said "they" wont let him get away with it. Leyla has decided to sell their original house - which is surprising because she originally said she was going to sell their present house. Nisan has moved out. Efe gazes longingly up at her window but drives away before she comes out. Her mother has asked him to let her go - to hide his feelings for her so as she can move on - Efe - being Efe and not having two brain cells to rub together agrees. I am willing this series to end - and if it ends as stupidly as Ezel did I will join you in your dastardly plan for revenge - but it would be cheaper to put a plaice in a parcel and post it !!

I watched a show about some Norwegians who decided to build a house by hand, i.e. using hand tools, felling their own trees, doing it all the way it was done a couple hundred years ago. They treated their wood the way the Japanese used to do. I guess they made an exception to the traditional Norwegian method on wood treatment.

What is the writer thinking? Efe listened to Nisan's mom when she told him to break her heart so she could find someone else who might make her happy, given that Efe was stuck with Seda. Does the writer think that we the viewers see Efe as having a greater love for Nisan because of this? That we see this as some noble self sacrifice? Efe knows the deal with Seda is short term, that as soon as they identify the man who ordered the killing Efe will quit the charade, give Seda the bad news and tell her the marriage is null and void so he and Nisan can be together. So how is it noble of him to break her heart and tell her to move on? The writer had Efe stand outside looking up at Nisan through her window to demonstrate his passionate love for her, and then when she saw him and came down, he fled away as Nisan's mom wanted him to in order to show that he was noble enough to sacrifice his own happiness so that she could move on and stop being hurt by him. That's how I think the writer expects us to view that scene, but as we both have discussed, that is just so much horse crap. And does the writer think we view Efe as being compassionate when he wimps out and runs to Seda every time she fakes a pain? Whenever he capitulates to Seda's demands he looks like a spineless idiot. Our estimation of him goes down, not up. Once he becomes Efe again I will say he starts acting a bit smarter and more masculine. Perhaps the writer planned it that way as part of his contrast between the decadent rich and the working poor.

Once when Seda complained to Efe that he wasn't spending enough time with her she commented that it upsets her when he leaves her alone and "the baby is affected by the mother's mental state". That may be true, and if so, Seda shouldn't be allowed to have children by law. Because it constitutes child abuse, even in the womb. Can you imagine a real person who thinks and acts like Seda actually raising a child? It would be a miracle if that child managed to avoid being seriously mentally ill. Even if the child didn't get the crazy genes, he or she would learn to think and act crazy just from being around her. There should be a "Seda law" such that women who are that nuts are required by law to get hysterectomies, and there would be if she had fallen for a lawmaker. I can see a lot of laws being amended to take her into account. If she jaywalked into traffic and somebody stomped their brakes to avoid hitting her, I can see the policeman giving them a ticket for non-feasance, failure to perform a duty. They had the chance to run her over and didn't to do it.

Ismail didn't suddenly become a good for nothing, drunken gambler once Efe became a fisherman, that level of worthlessness took a while to perfect. So you asked a great question, how did they survive before Efe began fishing? Perhaps he exploited him even as a child, but what did he do before that? ....They rehab Ismail a little bit in a couple of episodes or so. He talks to Nadide and apologizes for knocking her around over the photos and says he was wrong. But he is still a slothful sorry excuse for a man.

You really don't like Seda do you? !!! It seems to me that the writer must have some personal reason for making her such a villainess - some unresolved domestic issues - and this is his means of catharsis. If the baby is affected by the mother's mental state God help that child!! It must be so because look at Seda's mother - she is equally full of hatred resentment and vengeance so given Seda's psychosis I guess she is right. I am beginning to feel sorry for Seda (gasps of horror and disbelief) look at it objectively - she had no chance from birth given her parentage - a virago and a murderer - she falls in love with a man - he falls in love with her - they make plans for him to divorce and for them to be together - then in one day her whole world is turned upside down - a man who showed her love and affection suddenly recoils from her - with no explanation - nothing she can say or do makes it comprehensible to her - he will not interact with her or explain anything - from hot to cold in one day. Then she discovers she is pregnant and his only reaction is OK, I will marry you - but only for a few months then I'm gone. Still no reason - no explanation - it is enough to drive you mad - and if that wasn't enough she has her mother - the vengeful snake constantly whispering evil into her ear - using her to get her own revenge. It is positively Shakespearian!! I think the writer thinks that personal sacrifice is a noble thing - but as you say - Efe's sacrifice is only going to be for a few months and then what? Will it be noble to abandon a mother and child? What about the grandparents - this is their grandchild regardless of which brother is the father - will they abandon them? I don't think so. So Seda will always be a part of their lives unless one of three things happen - a DNA test reveals that neither brother is the father - or she dies of complications in childbirth or - she loses the baby. The latter is the most plausible given how nuts Efe has made her - and it is his fault when push comes to shove whether deliberately or not - he is the cause of it all. Ismail enrages me - the way he stumbles into the house - demands somebody makes him food or coffee - sits on his butt and does absolutely nothing except dream up ways of getting money without working for it. Whilst we are on the subject - Efe knows all about Ismael - he knows that he will drink any money he gives him away - or gamble it away - he knows that it will not go to the family - so why did he give him cash? Why not say - OK - if they need money I'll pop in tomorrow and bring some cash - or better still - arrange to meet Fatma in the town and give it to her - or give it to Burkat to give to her. Giving it to Ismael made no sense. It seems a very male dominated society in Turkey - but I can't see any modern woman allowing her father to beat her - or any modern mother allowing it - or Burkat not intervening. That rolling pin would be having a real work-out if it was me !!

Update - I am on Ep 35 now - after finding a handy videotape of a very incriminating conversation in which Yakup gives the kill order on Harun (isn't it amazing how two grown men did not notice a video camera recording their every word from about 6 feet away) Efe storms to the house and beats him up but doesn't kill him - thus allowing him and Mahzar to escape in a car which Kadim pushes over a cliff. So we now know who comes back from the dead - it has to be Yakup. Nisan disappears after the power of attorney gives Yakup's shares to Seda (why would he do that knowing what Seda did to Nisan - that is really implausible - give her some cash or some shares maybe - but make her Nisan's boss?) Efe finds Nisan in the boat and they go back to the house where his mother and his foster mother "overhear" him saying he is Efe. What is the matter with these people - must they overhear everything instead of being told it? His mother is too hurt to forgive him. They go to the office and tell Seda - she careers back to the house and confronts his mother who confirms it. Needless to say - she collapses and is currently in hospital where I expect she will lose the baby. Kadim has told Efruz that Efe is in love with Nisan. She cries - oh dear - and she thought she was in with a chance with a married man with a baby on the way - that scenario was totally stupid. There is only one reason in my view where Yakup left her a controlling interest in the company - because now the main story has come to it's conclusion they have to have some means of continuing the conflict - after all - there is another 15 episodes to go yet. I think that Seda will now try to take over the company completely and force Efe out - she will divorce him - it seems a pretty easy process in Turkey - do you agree - yes - ok sign this paper - it's done. There is the possibility that the "gunrunners" will try and make her continue the shipments and I think this may lead by some means of her getting Efe either imprisoned or killed. I think it will end with him and Nisan going back to the simple life and him becoming a fisherman again. I think his real mother will sell up and move away. If there is any justice Seda will be hoist by her own petard and end up being killed by the gunrunners. Phew...I am having an interlude now - it's too emotionally exhausting !!!

update - ok ok why didn't you warn me then!! Where did they get him from ? Bora Begum or whatever his name is - what a - mustn't say it. I doubt it will be worth any girl falling in love with him though - he'd be more likely interested in sharing a lipstick. So it looks like Nisan is going to be thought a brilliant designer by him - much to Seda's chagrin. I love the way Seda visited Nisan and told her it was all her fault - again. They are getting silly with it now and I have lost any sympathy I was beginning to feel for Seda. I hope against hope that it is not going to be the silly old trope of two people starting off as disliking each other and ending up as true lerve. But if Efe doesn't stop his noncommittal act before long (what is the need for that now?) then Nisan is going to be blown away by the Bora (do you think he chose the name of a wind or that he just suffers from it !?)

Nadide and the girls saw Bora's photo and one of them said "how dreamy!". Yeah, right. That guy looks pretty gay, and not very macho either. But this is a fictional story so we will believe he is straight. Talk about suspending disbelief.

I'll admit I thought the same things about Seda as you mentioned; the death of Mete put her in an awful situation. And she may never have done some of the things she has done had her crazy mother not arrived on the scene to get revenge on "that family". But for whatever reasons (and it is a shame that she was raised by her mother), Seda is the way she is, and it's not pretty. She is wicked. And Nisan caught a case of Efe's stupidity when she listened to Seda spin her "let's put the past behind us and work together for the good of the company" story. After the last time she should have been on high alert after that. Instead she, along with everyone else, bought the fake twisted ankle routine and now she and Bora are off to some industry get together to show off their product line. I know that Efe will find out and get jealous of them, I can just picture that happening. Of course, Yakup will show up again, and instead of turning to his wife, who is totally on his side, he runs to Nisan to put her in a dilemma. ("He is a habitual liar, a murderer, a career criminal, and all around bad person; but he is my father! I know I should call the police, or Efe, but I just CAN"T" she thinks before telling him to find help elsewhere. That is her compromise. She keeps it a secret, but won't help him.) Efruz will see an opening when Efe and Nisan fall out, and Efe will rebound to her. That's what I see coming.

Seda's plan to have Bora recommend firing Nisan didn't work at all, because Bora thinks she is genius. And Bora will start to fall for Nisan on a personal level as well, further driving Efe away. And lurking in the background, the vengeful Yakup. Seda will tell Efe that Nisan knew he was alive and still in town, and didn't tell him or call the police. She lost Mete, now she wants Nisan to lose her true love.

You were right. The shock of learning of Mete's death caused Seda to miscarry (of course). And she blames Efe and Nisan for the death of the bebe. That's the thing with people like her. Whatever happens in her life which disappoints her or hurts her emotionally, she blames on someone else, even if she did it to herself (like falling down the stairs, or becoming notorious after putting her photo in the paper, and so on). Thus she always has a seething hatred toward her enemies who have ruined her life, and she feels fully justified for every evil act she commits against them. And when those actions backfire on her, she blames her enemies that she got hurt instead of them. Which makes her seethe with hatred towards them all the more. And so on. God, I really hope she doesn't play poker with them at the end.

I expect they will somehow manage to portray Ismail as a lovable old man with some faults they all forgive him for. He will admit that he has made mistakes but not really change his ways, yet somehow because of familiarity he will be accepted nonetheless. Nadide will insist on some changes I think, and Ismail will concede them. I don't think the writers want to fault him too much for being a worthless jackass. I guess I can live with that, just so long as they don't try the same thing with Seda. I can't see them rehabilitating Seda. I am glad she lost the baby, as bad as that sounds. The baby is better off that way, and it means nobody in Mete's family will have to see her in the future.

What ever happened to those film noir movies? Crime did not pay in those films, the bad guy got punished and justice was done. I don't like the way TV and movies have changed.

2-in episode 38 Efe and Nisan make up after a small spat. Nisan says "you don't trust me". Efe says "No, that's not true. I trust you more than anyone. I know you would never lie or keep anything from me".

That last sentence was pointedly put there to set up a future fight, you can be sure. It has that "famous last words" feel to it. And we know that Nisan is keeping a secret from him, and Seda knows what it is. She is waiting to drop that bombshell on Efe in order to blow up Nisan's relationship with him.

So I can see a breakup coming because of this. Now I wonder how long they are going to play this out, how many episodes it will take for them to break up and then get back together again. Yakup is trying to escape the country to start over somewhere new. Will he make it out of the country? Will his plan hit some snag so he stays in the story until the end? The latter makes much more sense. What's the point in him still being alive if he gets away?

And there is still the big elephant in the room; when and how will Efe learn that Kadim was the man who drove the truck that pushed his father's car over the cliff? What will be the result of that revelation?

Will Fatma finally reach her limit and reach for that rolling pin?

So there are still a few things to resolve.

Did you notice how sneakily they snuck in Ismael's "job". I fell about laughing. When Efe tells Fatma he and Nissan are getting married she promptly brings out some crocheted table and coffee table covers - and a great big one for the bed. These must have taken months to make and being as she thought Efe was dead why would she have made them anyway? However - as she is showing Efe these crocheted items - Ismael pipes up "and I sell knitwear but I didn't see them" Ohhh - so he is not a worthless drunken gambling woman beating layabout after all - he has a job - HE SELLS KNITWEAR. - That whole oh, I stumbled on the stairs and twisted my ankle device is so pathetic, and Nisan gets a fever which necessitates Bora staying in her room all night? Now Bora not only thinks she's a genius but fancies her (ahem) as well - not to mention how beautiful he thinks Nadide the ugly duckling is. Efruz has gotten her father into trouble AGAIN but the teeth forgave her - why do people have mobile phones if they don't bluddy answer them? Now the two mothers are in league to prevent the marriage so what with Yakub and Seda and the Kadim situations it doesn't look good for the lovebirds. I can't see any way for Efe and Kadim's friendship to survive if Efe finds out that he was the one in the lorry that pushed their car. He has had a flashback and remembers the ring a few episodes back - did anything come of that because Efruz wears it around her neck - which begs the question how did she acquire it? I think Yakub is going to make a run for it but he will be discovered at the airport and there will be a shoot out and he will be killed - that is the only way that Kadim's involvement with Harun's death will be kept secret. I know I have seen that guy who plays Arif the police chief before but he isn't listed in the credits which seems odd because people with lesser parts are. I have a feeling that Kadim is going to be killed - he has been a bad guy - he has killed an innocent man - I am not sure that the writer wont feel bound to punish him for that. Yes - morality started losing ground in the sixties and has gotten totally forgotten now. In the old days villains were punished - they never won in the end - it was white hat always beat black hat but not any more. The entire industry is morally bankrupt - anything goes for money. How actors allow themselves to be exhibited in all their naked glory doing disgusting things to each other is beyond my understanding. They defend themselves by calling it ART - but where is the art in two males or two females or any variation thereof slobbering over each other and having explicit sex. They are on the same level as prostitutes as far as I am concerned.

I missed Ismail's comment about selling knitwear. I guess he drinks and gambles away his earnings because once Efe's money stopped coming in the rent stopped getting paid. {And you're right. I had the same thought earlier about Efe knowing his family was now without an income while he was playing Mete. As much as he cares about them you would think he would have arranged for some money to get to them somehow, especially after he was introduced as Mete and would have a chance to give it to them directly. Or better yet, he could just have sent the money to the landlord directly and had the bills forwarded to him at work, or something like that.

I have a feeling Kadim is going to "do the right thing", confess to Efe, and then probably try to do himself in as punishment for doing the murder. He will tell Efe he didn't know he was in the car, he will tell him why he desperately needed the money and took the job, he will explain that he had to help Efe find out who gave the order and punish him, and now that that was done, and he knew his wife and daughter are alright, he will pay for his crime by committing suicide. Efe will express his outrage at the revelation that Kadim killed his father, but when he hears that Kadim is going to kill himself, he will try to stop him. He will suddenly find forgiveness for Kadim. It is much easier to forgive someone who confesses, is repentant and sorry, and who has done all they can to make amends. That person has not tried to escape justice, in fact, they are suffering from guilt so badly they are willing to die. When you see someone like that, you find it easier to forgive them. I have a feeling something like that will happen with Kadim.

Because you know he will be found out. Efe remembered the ring, the same ring Efruz wore around her neck that day at work. (She has not been wearing it since, no reason given for that. But I am sure the writers just didn't want Efe to see it and figure things out too soon.) So somehow that ring will play into the truth coming out about what Kadim did all those years ago. That is how I see things happening with Kadim.

I also think he will survive the suicide attempt, possibly because of the intervention of Efruz. I think there will be a happy ending for Kadim, Efruz, and Farise.

Seda remains a total bitch at work (and everywhere else too). No surprise there. Honestly, if she ran that company by herself all her employees would quit and the company would cease doing business. In fact, wouldn't it be a great ending if that happened, and then Nisan started a company of her own and hired all the employees who quit Seda's company? She could easily get the backing to get her company off the ground with Bora's support, which he would definitely give her. (He thinks she has great talent. He asked her why they hired him, since he obviously wasn't needed there.) That would be fantastic. And then Seda would storm into the offices of the new company blaming Nisan for the failure of Seda's company, and all the former employees would grab Seda and throw her down the stairs, jeering at her as she bounced to the bottom. NO. No, I didn't say that out loud did I?

Probably more likely things will go poorly for Seda as all of her plans fail, and she has a meltdown, and winds up in a looney ward. Efe and Nisan will reconcile. The end.

Well, maybe it will go like that. Probably not. I am usually surprised.

Oh yeah, I noticed something else. Ever since about the time Nisan left to go to that industry meeting with Bora she has been having some health issues. She got sick with a fever on the trip. And she has had nosebleeds and a cough since coming back. I am wondering if Seda poisoned her. That wouldn't surprise me. At one point Seda muttered "enjoy that ring while you can" under her breath. She could have been referring to her plan to cause them to break up. But what if she poisoned her and was talking about her impending demise from the poison? That is a real possibility.

update: Nisan donated some blood at the hospital. They called her in to say there were some "deficiencies" in her blood and the doctor wants her to see a colleague of his to follow up on it. So I am thinking either she has a serious illness or she was poisoned.

update: It occurs to me that that actress who plays Seda seems to play the part of a psycho bitch with such ease. I wonder if she might be a little bit that way in real life. I mean, I wonder if she has the potential to go psycho bitchy in real life. She is so convincing in this role that I would be a bit leary about dating her.