I agree. I think they're probably both bullying Ziggy and the little girl.

Also wondering of Celestes' husband will be ziggy dad! He's violent and travels alot who knows what he does

That would be one heck of a twist! He certainly does fit the profile. Especially the way Jane described the way he acted, totally seems like Perry. I'm very curious to see the way it all plays out. The murder could be planned between Celeste, Jane and Madeline.

Oooh I never thought of that, that they all planned a murder. I love it! How about learning Madeline isn't so faithful wonder if she told Celeste the whole story.

That was a bit shocking to me. I never expected that one at all!! It's too bad tho. I really like her husband. He just seems to be head over heels for her, very sweet and funny. The Elvis bit killed me! Lol. Of course, you never really know. They could start revealing stuff about Ed that shows maybe he's not such a good guy. I thought Perry seemed like such an awesome husband in the first episode, then towards the end....Woah! Didn't see that coming. He's a total sociopath!

Yes I did notice the shoes but have no idea what the other could be I'll rewatch it if I don't pick it up leto me know what it is

I am not sure how you can put spoilers on here like on imdb and block them still new to this site maybe someone will know

You can't cover spoilers at this point. Only way would be to just give a heads up that it's a spoiler.

@Invidia , the sweat comment struck me as odd as well. I thought the show might be trying to have him look a bit awkward, and that's just his personality. But he did check out that girl's butt that was coming in as he was leaving.

Aaahhha I know 😉 I wish this show was more than 7 episodes it's great!!!!

It could be a money thing. Monterey seems like an extremely expensive place to live. She teaches an aerobics class. I'm sure she wouldn't make enough to live there on her own. You are right about him not seeming to be her type. But, you know what they say....Opposites attract, so who knows.

I did notice him check out the other girl as he was leaving. He doesn't seem to be getting much of any attention from Madeline all she does it talk about her ex and his wife

It looked to be a combination of aerobics, yoga, boxing and dance. I don't know if they've said yet if she runs it or owns it. Side note: she looks just like her mom! Just stunning!

I know the father is Lenny Kravitz have no idea who the mom is

Ohhh hahaa ok I completely see the mom now looks jus to like her!

@Invidia said:

@tipsymcstaggers said:

It looked to be a combination of aerobics, yoga, boxing and dance. I don't know if they've said yet if she runs it or owns it. Side note: she looks just like her mom! Just stunning!

When Reese and Nicole were there weren't they taking a yoga class? Remember Reese also got in trouble for talking too much?

So they must run several different kinds of work outs and even combine them?

I like working out with Wai Lana (yoga) and Miranda (Classical Stretch) on PBS. Miranda also has a combo of works out put together and you also get an aerobic work out without even knowing it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBPjMze4FpM

She's also a former ballerina who is in her mid 60's.

Here's a work out with her daughter:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmBtv5T7JBE

Who is the mother of this other actress?

I've been into Taebo for 18 years. I have a ton of the dvds, it's a lot of fun. I have a few of Jillian Michaels DVDs and a few other dance type workouts, but I always go back to Taebo.

Yea, Lisa Bonet is Zoe's mom. They are both beautiful ladies.