@Knixon said:

@Raymondoz2007 said:

In 300 years life expencty is 130,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,70 is the new 30.

Maybe for Vulcans. There's never been any suggestion that humans lived anything like that long, either in TOS or after.

And anyway, if theoretically "70 is the new 30," shouldn't Michelle Yeoh look closer to 30 than to 70? (Since they have to cast actual humans from the present who don't live to 130, that means they should have cast an actual 30-year-old and SAID that she's 70.) But I wouldn't be surprised if Michelle Yeoh is largely "stunt casting" anyway, just to get some people to watch because of name recognition. "Nobody" knew who Shatner, Nimoy, etc were, before 1966.

In the first show of TNG Retired medical Adrimal McCoy took a tour of the Enterprise...He was 120 years old.

I classify that as just a one-off gimmick to have someone from TOS appear as a "send-off." Although a few very rare people make it to about that age even now, which means they were born just after or even slightly before the year 1900! But there's no evidence that humans in general lived very much longer than they do now, in any of the previous Trek series. They also started off TNG with the rubrick - countering what happened all the time in TNG - that the captain wouldn't be going along on every away mission because it was too risky. But that "rule" was pretty much sidelined even before the end of the first season.

Who cares! It's Star Trek, NOT the Miss Universe Beauty Pageant!

The fubar PC I hated on trek was voyagers injun munbo jumbo.

I suspect Discovery will be far worse in those areas.

Jason Isaacs. Cool mofo. Been a fan since I saw him in The Patriot. I'll watch because of Isaacs but I'm not sure about paying for another service just to watch a show that hasn't been garnering a lot of positive buzz so far.

@Knixon said:

The way I read it, Sonequa Martin-Green is first officer to Jason Isaacs as captain of Discovery, and she is the focus of the stories. Michelle Yeoh is captain of a different ship, the Shenzhou.

And that's not exactly ground-breaking, either. Babylon 5 had an Asian female ship commander, 10 years ago: Kim Miyori.

Not sure why race is being spotlighted in the comment with respect to Michelle Yeoh.

I don't think they're attempting to make any particular point.

@Knixon said:

I classify that as just a one-off gimmick to have someone from TOS appear as a "send-off." Although a few very rare people make it to about that age even now, which means they were born just after or even slightly before the year 1900! But there's no evidence that humans in general lived very much longer than they do now, in any of the previous Trek series. They also started off TNG with the rubrick - countering what happened all the time in TNG - that the captain wouldn't be going along on every away mission because it was too risky. But that "rule" was pretty much sidelined even before the end of the first season.

Are you kidding?

To my knowledge there has been no human in modern history who's come even remotely close to 120yrs old. Trees live that long and longer...not humans.

Members of my own family have made it as far as 100 and 101...but that's it.

@PhelpsFan said:

@Raymondoz2007 I am getting really tired of this "Michelle Yeoh is too old" stuff. So she's 55. That doesn't make her character unable to command a Starship. Besides, to tell you the truth, Michelle being involved in Discovery is the reason why I'm going to watch the show.

The MA rating may have something to do with the gay couple, but I'm beginning to think that CBS is milking the "hey, if we make the show sexier because we are on a streaming channel more people will watch".

Michelle Yeah looks amazing at 55! And yes, well within an appropriate age to command a ship. After all, it's more about mental stability and awareness.

It's a fictionalized show. It's not like it's reality and having to be concerned about a 70+ male attempting to run a country and running amok instead.

@Nubyan said:

@Knixon said:

I classify that as just a one-off gimmick to have someone from TOS appear as a "send-off." Although a few very rare people make it to about that age even now, which means they were born just after or even slightly before the year 1900! But there's no evidence that humans in general lived very much longer than they do now, in any of the previous Trek series. They also started off TNG with the rubrick - countering what happened all the time in TNG - that the captain wouldn't be going along on every away mission because it was too risky. But that "rule" was pretty much sidelined even before the end of the first season.

Are you kidding?

To my knowledge there has been no human in modern history who's come even remotely close to 120yrs old. Trees live that long and longer...not humans.

Members of my own family have made it as far as 100 and 101...but that's it.

There was a news story I saw within the past couple weeks, that the then-oldest-person still alive had died, at 117 plus X months. The position was taken over by someone who is 117 years and a smaller number of months.

The oldest verified person on record is French woman Jeanne Calment (1875–1997), who lived to the age of 122 years, 164 days. But I don't think she would have been making inspection tours of starships.

@Knixon Okay...so two people in modern history out of billions. That's not a few. It's two people.

Even if there were ten, that would still be minuscule compared to the billions who exists in the world.

Nonetheless, thanks for history lesson. That was surprising news to me.

Those are/were just the currently oldest. You don't get to be 117 without first being 116, and 115, and 114... The one who's oldest now at 117 was previously next-oldest. And there's more coming up behind them. It's not like just one person is now 117, and everyone else dies at 99.

You can find lists of oldest people online, such as:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_verified_oldest_people

True, not many of them make it to 117. But the list shows 7 currently alive between ages 114 and 117. And almost 100 who made it past 114 even if they're not currently alive.

My main point though, was that even if people start living past 120 more often in the future, I don't think they'll be fit to make inspection tours of starships. That was still just a gimmick.

@Knixon said:

My main point though, was that even if people start living past 120 more often in the future, I don't think they'll be fit to make inspection tours of starships. That was still just a gimmick.

Speaking solely to the concept and imagination of the show...I would have to disagree with your assessment.

In a futuristic world with the technology of that time...I find it quite plausible that someone that age would be fit enough to do such inspections and much more for that fact.

But again, other than McCoy in that one-off gimmick, they didn't show other humans living that long, while still being in any capacity to accomplish things.

I also got the feeling from McCoy's lines that Spock was no longer alive, but obviously he was, since he turned up several seasons later. So was Kirk, in a way, and Scotty too in another gimmick. But if it's all just gimmickry, none of that really matters.