Somebody once told the German writer Goethe that Sir Walter Scott stole an idea from one of his stories . Goethe said, "Yes, and I think he handled it very well."
"Religious Fundamentalist Klingons" led by a self-proclaimed holy man seeking to "Make Q'onos Great Again" sounds a little too familiar. So now "we come in peace" are fighting words to Kahless' children? Oh well, I've signed on to "Star Trek: Deep Ship Wars" for now as The Dark Side vs. "The Orville," which feels like an old pair of Starfleet gravity boots.;)
""Religious Fundamentalist Klingons" led by a self-proclaimed holy man seeking to "Make Q'onos Great Again""
Is that what Star Trek Discovery is doing? It doesn't dovetail with the Klingon history that we heard on Deep Space 9, where we heard that the Klingons rebelled against their gods. I'm glad I'm missing it.
I think he'd be amused. I didn't like The Orville's first episode, but the second episode sold me. It was a different take on the Menagerie, and had a pretty funny conclusion. The 3rd episode had a surprisingly relevant conflict and made me reflect. The 4th episode had just an amazing story and I think Roddenberry himself would have been proud of it if he had watched what he inspired.
I think he'd be proud that his idea has become so pervasive. He's not being denied credit, because everybody sees the Star Trek resemblance. He's not being denied money, because he's dead. The one ethical question I have is whether his heirs are being denied royalties. If the heir is the network, I don't care. If it's Majel Barett, I'd like to hear her opinion, if she's still alive.
Thank you. In that case, I don't think anybody human is getting cheated by the Orville. I don't feel too sorry for corporations who buy up copyrights.
You do know that his son Eugene "Rod" Roddenberry Jr. is an executive 'producer' of Star Trek: Discovery? If there had been objections about 'The Orville' infringing on any copyrights I'm sure we would have heard about them by now?
Reply by Jassem
on September 28, 2017 at 4:42 AM
I don't care I enjoyed every episode.
Reply by CharlesTheBold
on September 28, 2017 at 9:14 PM
Somebody once told the German writer Goethe that Sir Walter Scott stole an idea from one of his stories . Goethe said, "Yes, and I think he handled it very well."
Reply by Tim-Buktu
on September 29, 2017 at 10:14 AM
Interesting. Have you been in contact with the ghost of Gene Roddenberry?
Reply by Taylorfirst1
on September 29, 2017 at 12:28 PM
Homage/parody not a rip off.
Reply by Midi-chlorian_Count
on September 29, 2017 at 1:39 PM
He's got bigger things to not be amused by at the moment...
Reply by Patrick E. Abe
on September 29, 2017 at 4:02 PM
"Religious Fundamentalist Klingons" led by a self-proclaimed holy man seeking to "Make Q'onos Great Again" sounds a little too familiar. So now "we come in peace" are fighting words to Kahless' children? Oh well, I've signed on to "Star Trek: Deep Ship Wars" for now as The Dark Side vs. "The Orville," which feels like an old pair of Starfleet gravity boots.;)
Reply by Nygma-0999
on September 29, 2017 at 4:58 PM
I think he would be more appalled by what has happen to Star Trek in the last 10 years. Then some humor fill homage to his creation.
Reply by CharlesTheBold
on September 29, 2017 at 10:02 PM
""Religious Fundamentalist Klingons" led by a self-proclaimed holy man seeking to "Make Q'onos Great Again""
Is that what Star Trek Discovery is doing? It doesn't dovetail with the Klingon history that we heard on Deep Space 9, where we heard that the Klingons rebelled against their gods. I'm glad I'm missing it.
Reply by Knixon
on September 30, 2017 at 12:26 PM
It also sounds like they might be claiming Kahless was alive more recently than we "know" to be true.
Reply by Innovator
on October 3, 2017 at 4:48 AM
I think he'd be amused. I didn't like The Orville's first episode, but the second episode sold me. It was a different take on the Menagerie, and had a pretty funny conclusion. The 3rd episode had a surprisingly relevant conflict and made me reflect. The 4th episode had just an amazing story and I think Roddenberry himself would have been proud of it if he had watched what he inspired.
Reply by CharlesTheBold
on October 3, 2017 at 8:12 AM
I think he'd be proud that his idea has become so pervasive. He's not being denied credit, because everybody sees the Star Trek resemblance. He's not being denied money, because he's dead. The one ethical question I have is whether his heirs are being denied royalties. If the heir is the network, I don't care. If it's Majel Barett, I'd like to hear her opinion, if she's still alive.
Reply by Knixon
on October 3, 2017 at 12:56 PM
Actually, she died back in 2008.
Reply by CharlesTheBold
on October 3, 2017 at 1:28 PM
"Actually, she died back in 2008."
Thank you. In that case, I don't think anybody human is getting cheated by the Orville. I don't feel too sorry for corporations who buy up copyrights.
Reply by bratface
on October 3, 2017 at 2:27 PM
You do know that his son Eugene "Rod" Roddenberry Jr. is an executive 'producer' of Star Trek: Discovery? If there had been objections about 'The Orville' infringing on any copyrights I'm sure we would have heard about them by now?
Reply by CharlesTheBold
on October 3, 2017 at 5:19 PM
Again, thank you for the information. It sounds like it doesn't bother him.