@Knixon said:

Well, so far we haven't seen evidence that the admiral was wrong. And it's Seth's universe, he gets to write it his way. It may be unlikely or even basically impossible that religion would die out completely, but given his setup where it supposedly has, it just doesn't make sense that people would continue to use expressions like "Oh my god." Not even while having sex.

But the Admiral has been proven wrong twice. The Krill for one and the people on "If the Stars should appear". Knowing Seth Macfarlain, who won't take a pass making fun of or comment on religions whenever he can, I'm expecting the Admiral to keep on being proven wrong (like the way Brian is on Family Guy).

Oh, well I wouldn't use the Krill as an example of "normal humanoid behavior" or something. The Admiral might very well have been correct for any sentient species that didn't evolve from lizards, or whatever. Or that haven't been conquering powers throughout their history...

And if Seth actually believes atheism is the right way, then he's making Brian right and everyone else delusional or just using the "god" stuff as a basis for more jokes... It doesn't prove he takes the god stuff seriously himself, or thinks anyone else should. Basically every character on the show is a dolt of one type or another. Seth might figure dolts WOULD believe in god, and even think they see it from time to time.

@Knixon said:

Oh, well I wouldn't use the Krill as an example of "normal humanoid behavior" or something. The Admiral might very well have been correct for any sentient species that didn't evolve from lizards, or whatever. Or that haven't been conquering powers throughout their history...

And if Seth actually believes atheism is the right way, then he's making Brian right and everyone else delusional or just using the "god" stuff as a basis for more jokes... It doesn't mean he takes the god stuff seriously.

That's the thing, he doesn't take religion seriously and makes fun of it or comments on it all the time so expect more of that on the Orville. As for Brian being right, he's actually been called out on how wrong he is by Stewie, and several times how wrong he is about everything else. Brian likes to feign intelligence by making himself look like an intellectual superior (hence his stance on atheism in spite of the reality of it in their world), but in fact he's pretty dumb.

Well I did say everyone on that show is some kind of dolt. But then how is Seth really trying to make a point about religion, in any of the shows? If he doesn't think god actually exists but puts god in the shows anyway just because it makes it possible to tell more jokes... that doesn't seem to prove much either way.

And how did the "If The Stars Should Appear" people prove the admiral wrong? They didn't know they were spacefaring people.

@Knixon said:

Well I did say everyone on that show is some kind of dolt. But then how is Seth really trying to make a point about religion, in any of the shows? If he doesn't think god actually exists but puts god in the shows anyway just because it makes it possible to tell more jokes... that doesn't seem to prove much either way.

And how did the "If The Stars Should Appear" people prove the admiral wrong? They didn't know they were spacefaring people.

Yeah that was a bad example come to think of it. As for the "Oh God" thing, its a common expression and probably will continue to be a common expression in the future regardless on anyones religious beliefs, as long as people acknowledge there are others who believe in God or had believed in God. What else are people going to say in bed? As for Seth McFarlane, he makes fun of religion because he was raised Catholic and now considers himself mostly Atheist (99% as he puts it).

Me, I'm 100% Catholic if you hadn't figured that out from my posts yet.

This discussion is getting very involved. I don't want to get sucked in so I'm gonna do the 23 skidoo.

"And it's Seth's universe, he gets to write it his way".

Which is what I was complaining about when I started this thread -- wish-fulfilment universes by people who lose out in the real world.

Seth seems to be doing rather well in the real world.

@Innovator said:

What else are people going to say in bed?

Well, Seth and people like him might think people should yell "Oh, Barack!" or "Oh, Hillary!" or "Oh, Bernie!" during sex.

But if religion actually fades out - and I don't mean like just the people who go to Mass and then cheat on their spouses and insist other peoples' tax money pay for abortions etc - I really don't see why "Oh my God!" etc would stick around. How about "Oh my stars!" That seems much more appropriate for the Orville-verse.

(And if you watch The Big Bang Theory, that brings up a couple more options: apparently Beverly says "Yikes!" and Penny seems to prefer "Yee-hah!" At least on some occasions.)