The original network was BBC. I'll give in for now as we are going round in circles and it's frustrating, but I will likely be back lol. Thank you for at least keeping the discussion going and not just shutting it down stating we are right, you are wrong, end of :)

@ttvcapps said:

The original network was BBC.

• The original network of "Bake Off Crème de la Crème" was the BBC.
• The original network of "Bake Off: The Professionals" (which started with season 1) is Channel 4.

Further to all this, Ch4 have confirmed it IS s09 and NOT s07, for the exact reasoning I stated earlier

If MasterChef New Zealand can have missing seasons, then I see no reason why this can't do the same to put it in alignment with s09

The 2 cases have nothing in common :

MasterChef NewZealand has really 7 seasons. Simply, as of now, nobody has filled the data for seasons 5 and 6.

A correct comparison is for example Futurama (1999) which is listed as an example in the rules:

• When the show has joined Hulu, in the 2020 years, the 7 existing seasons has been resplit in 10 seasons and the 2 new seasons made by Hulu has been released as seasons 10 and 11.
• On our site, we continue to list the original 7 seasons and the 2 seasons made by Hulu are numbered 8 and 9.

Then could add seasons 7/8 and leave them blank and fill in season 9?

Whchever route you decide, the current one has been proven incorrect by getting it straight from the horse's mouth, so it needs fixing SOMEHOW to have it as s09. That's if you want your site to be accurate.

To quote "The original distributor in the original country of release should be used as the official source of information."

The only valid solution as per our reorganisation rule is the current one. There will be no change.

It is NOT reorganisation, it is simply putting it as its correct SEASON. Leave 1-6 as is since that is how it was originally aured, skip 7/8 like MasterChef NZ (and yes they are skipped as they don't exist at all) and make this it's correct entry.

If you won't do that then you aren't being accurate and breaking your own rule of following the original broadcaster: "Our main goal is to reproduce the seasons exactly as they first aired on the original network" which means 1-6, then 9 not 7. Plus completely disregarding what Ch4 themselves have said. That would be a pretty poor action, making out the TMDb knows better than the broadcaster.

I look forward to you rectifying this, correctly and accurately, not telling me it can't be done when it certainly can be. Thank you

@ttvcapps said:

It is NOT reorganisation

Changing the season numbers after the original broadcast is reorganisation.

As indicated, there will be no change. The application of the reorganisation rule is mandatory here.

It is not reorganising! Keep seasons 1-6 as is, no reorganising. Season 9 should be season 9 - not reorganising but adding! That's not a difficult concept to grasp, is it? "The application of the reorganisation rule" is not valid here. It IS breaking the "following broadcasters original airings" rule though. You can't enforce the first (in the wrong) and not the second. Unless mods don't know how to do it or don't have the ability?

Despite this NOT breaking the reorganising rule, could you please point me to where all these mandatory rules are published? If they are not announced anywhere (the Bible doesn't cover even a few never mind most) publicly so that users can read and use and abide by them then they cannot possibly be enforced.

In 2017 a mod said "So yeah, while it is true there is no list of rules, regulations and guidelines (pubilcly) available yet... [we are working on a so called "contribution bible" though! Which should make everything that much clearer],". I take it they are still not public (or not explained well at all/not included in the bible)? If so then how do users know it's a rule breaker and not a "because we now decide it's real because it proves our point and say so"?

@ttvcapps said:

It is not reorganising! Keep seasons 1-6 as is, no reorganising. Season 9 should be season 9 - not reorganising but adding!

@superboy97 is correct; changing the season numbers after the original broadcast is reorganization because it's a change made after the series first premiered on the network. Especially since the series released in 2023 was still Series 6 until Channel 4 reorganized the seasons in December 2023, almost 6 years after the show first premiered on Channel 4. The seasons went from being Series 1-6 to Series 3-8.

When the show moved to Channel 4, it was considered a separate TV show from the BBC version called Bake Off Crème de la Crème, as evidenced by this archive from June 29, 2018. As you can clearly see, Channel 4 calls their two series "Series 1" and "Series 2." The same show can't have two Series 1.

After a networks reorganizes a show's seasons, the new season is simply added as the next season. And seasons can't be skipped, unless the exist but they haven't been added yet like in the MasterChef NZ example you mistakenly think is the lynchpin in your argument; here's an archive of the series 5 that you say doesn't exist.

I never said those seasons don't exist in reality, just on TMDb. Masterchef NZ was used to show that seasons on here do not in fact have to follow 1,2,3,45,6,7, that you could (if not so stubborn) create 1,2,3,4,5,6,9. Just prevent creation of 7 and 8. Simple! That way everything going forward will still be following the broadcaster.

Again, please point out rules that say exceptional circumstances can never be taken into account? Where seasons can't be skipped? Or, indeed any rules, other than guidelines?

It is not reorganising as you are not touching s1-6, which was broadcast as such already, just adding season 9 as it had yet to broadcast when the errors of season 7 were made. SEASON 7 DOES NOT EXIST. It is following what Ch4 themselves have said of the current season, that it is season 9. However I realize you are all too stubborn to recognise this and that it breaks one of your rules. I've never met such a site that cannot concede that they could in fact be wrong and will continue to be wrong for any further seasons. No wonder I see Facebook and reddit filled with complaints about the inaccuracy of TMDb., because you can't admit when something is exceptional to your narrow rules and try to find a workaround that satisfies all rather than creating inaccurate content. I honestly thought proof from Ch4 themselves and logic from a member would make you see your error, but the fact another mod has been brought on board shows it as a bully boys club where users (and in this case broadcasters) actually have no say (as evidenced over and over in the discussions) because rules are reworded to suit each case or (more likely as there is no proof they exist) made up on the spot. It's kind of sad.

Thank you anyway, but I guess I'll be moving away to a more accurate site that listens when something is incorrectly listed.

Even if you keep it as an incorrect listing, can we at least have the ability to add episodes? The new ones upcoming for season 9 are on my epg guide but can't add them, so it's going to fall behind whether it's listed as the right season or not

The episodes can be added.