Channel 4 has the new season as number 9, ie a continuation from when it was on BBC 2.
Is there any way to have the entries here follow the same format, rather than labeling it season 7?
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Reply by superboy97
on June 11, 2024 at 7:21 PM
The last season has been named "Series 9" (It should remain numbered as 7, the season numbers need to be consecutive).
The previous seasons should remain named "Series 1" to "Series 6" as they were broadcasted this way.
Reply by ttvcapps
on June 11, 2024 at 7:31 PM
According to Ch4 as of now, they are consecutive season 3-9, if you look at their dropdown seasons list. Therefore any catchup, etc will have them named this way, and seasons going forth will be out of alignment with yourselves. I know seasons 1-2 are BBC2 so you class it as a new show, but clearly Ch4 are seeing it as a continuation. There must be a way to have both classifications accommodated for, surely? Or, if you are being a real stickler for following the broadcasted seasons, then some way to rename the obviously incorrect season 7 to season 9?
Reply by superboy97
on June 11, 2024 at 10:18 PM
We should always list the season as they were originally broadcasted.
Even if Channel 4 has now renamed the old seasons as "Series 3" to "Series 8", they have originally been broadcasted as "Series 1" to "Series 6" as visible in the dropdown of the archived page I haveprovided in my previous message. Consequently, this seasons should be listed "Series 1' to "Series 6".
The 7th season is already named "Series 9".
Reply by ttvcapps
on June 11, 2024 at 10:24 PM
So if listed as how they were originally broadcast, then it should be season 9, not season 7 with a title of series 9, correct? Just giving it a title does not make it line up with how it is being originally broadcast. I agree they have confused things, but it IS being originally broadcasted as season 9
Reply by superboy97
on June 11, 2024 at 10:26 PM
This is 7th season, so it should be numbered as season 7. This is mandatory, the season numbering should always be consecutive. Channel 4 is just naming this 7th season as "Series 9".
Reply by ttvcapps
on June 11, 2024 at 10:38 PM
So rules apply when it suits then? You are agreeing NOT to list it as originally broadcast by Ch4? In the UK seasons are usually listed as series (they are interchangeable), therefore in US terms this is season 9, not season 7. I just don't understand your logic as it is counter to what is clearly shown on Ch4. Or is it because it is too complicated to skip/renumber seasons? There are plenty of shows with skipped seasons.
Reply by superboy97
on June 11, 2024 at 10:52 PM
On the Channel 4 website, the seasons are named, not numbered.
And, as indicated, the numbering of the seasons should always start at 1 and be consecutive. If it is not the case, nearly all 3rd party applications will not anymore work.
Reply by ttvcapps
on June 11, 2024 at 11:01 PM
Proof? Would that not mean one to six were just "named" as well so perhaps should be season 3 up and as a continuation rather than new show? Naturally they can't list s01-2 as its not their content. It seems that mods have a savvy way of getting around things, no disrespect. There's an answer for everything to make sure it fits the rules 😕
Reply by superboy97
on June 12, 2024 at 12:08 AM
By the way, the rule on this subject is clear. I quote : "When seasons are re-organized, for example after a network change, (e.g. American Dad, Futurama), we do not re-arranged the aired seasons/episodes. The new season is simply added as the next season.". That means that the new season should be added as season 7 after season 6.
Reply by ttvcapps
on June 12, 2024 at 1:04 AM
So you don't rearrange the reorganised seasons???? Yet by reorganising you've just rearranged them. If that's a direct quote then someone isn't very good at English.
So added to the original show as season 3+? I'm confused. Nowhere in that does it state it having to be a brand new listing, so can it be added to the original like you stated?
Reply by superboy97
on June 12, 2024 at 1:36 AM
When going from the old show to the new one, there have been no reorganisation. The seasons of the old show remain the same on the old broadcaster and have not been transferred to the new one.
Reply by ttvcapps
on June 12, 2024 at 1:48 AM
You're picking the wrong thing out. Your quote (rearranging but not reorganising) made absolutely no sense and you have glossed right over it. What else makes no sense if that's the case?
Why can't it be added to the original show as you stated: "The new season is simply added as the next season"? And before you say it has to be classed as a new show I can't find anything in the bible that says as such. To be honest the Bible doesn't really cover the hard and fast rules and I can't find them anywhere.
So that brings us back to season/series (semantics) 9 and how to get it listed as such, not just as a titled season 7 when it is clearly advertised everywhere, not just Ch4, as 9
Reply by superboy97
on June 12, 2024 at 1:52 AM
This can't be listed any other way than a season numbered 7 and named "Series 9".
This is the way it is done every time such a thing happen.
Reply by ttvcapps
on June 12, 2024 at 2:24 AM
If listed as a continuation, which Ch4 are clearly now seeing it, then they can all go under the original and it WOULD be season 9.
Where in the rules (that can't be found) does it say it is a new show? I've been through the Bible, the t&c's, even discussion groups and nowhere are rules listed for this or indeed much else. It seems to be at the whim of the mods which is unfair for both parties - us as users hitting brick walls and mods for being moaned at for rules that can't be pointed out anywhere. Plus guidelines that, as quoted earlier, contradict themselves lol and are more than a bit nonsensical. I understand there needs to be structure but it seems haphazard, if one minute you follow broadcasters listings then say its a load of twaddle and it's broadcasters, not yourselves, who are listing things wrong. Or, as you attempted to make out "name seasons/series" (semantics again) not number them, when they are clearly numbering them, hence 3-9.
Reply by superboy97
on June 12, 2024 at 2:34 AM
The facts that it is not a continuation but a new show is directly derived from the main rule : "Episodes should be added exactly as they first aired on the original network (title, date, order, season). " The fact that the broadcaster starts with season (or series) 1 indicate that it's a new show, as a single show can't have two season 1. Furthermore, in this case, the titles were different.