Tefnic told Gonfishin that their pictures were all lost somehow. But she is getting tired of that explanation as things begin to seem too odd about the whole deal to her. I guess Finagle was just dressing Juju up the only way she knows how to dress for men, thinking it was what Teflon would want. But he likes Gonfish to be his sweet girl, not his nasty girl, so he didn't like it. I would imagine he will find it harder and harder to maintain his facade of sanity as his fake world begins to crumble, and especially if he finds out the bebe isn't his.

Poor Ozgirl is in for a huge letdown and meltdown whenever Yuzzie wakes up and pushes her aside saying "where is Gonfil?" We will see her crying and shouting "who was by your side every day while you were in your coma? Who exercised your arms for you? Who helped bathe you and treated your wounds? Me, not MemoryLapse girl. So I should get you, not her!" Yuzzie will tell her "for the last time, we are business partners, and that's all." And she will meltdown again.

Oh yeah, he just made up the whole marriage thing like he made up their fake names. I wonder if he might slip up and tell someone his name is Tefik in front of her, and trigger some memories. That will freak him out and have him sputtering mad (since he gets mad about everything). Why did you hear that? Why can't you keep your ears closed? You didn't hear what you think you heard. Stop talking like that. etc.

Teflon has demonstrated just how delusional he truly is. He thinks he can make anmesia girl fall in love with him. He really believes he can control reality by angrily insisting that the world conform to his dislusional way of seeing things. With enough threats, enough violence, he can force facts to change. And Figen has a similar illness. She thinks that by being near Teflon and babysitting Gonfool she can make him fall for her. What kind of mental defect is that? It's one thing to have goals and take concrete steps tword reachging them. But these people seem to think that by denying the stark facts in front of them they can change them. Vermin is in cahoots with Teflon, keeping Gonfishing hidden until the money can go to Vermin alone. But the snake doesn't trust the psycho, thinking he is trying to trick her somehow and get the money for himself. She thinks that once he brainwashes Gonfool into believing they are in love, he can bring her back as Gonfool again and take all the money. But there is still enough trust between them for now not to upset their arrangement. Ali still doesn't understand that Nese is completely over him, in fact she doesn't even have warm memories of him. Hilmi must be quite the fellow compared to Ali. Also, Ali doesn't seem terribly bright concerning women based on his interactions with Nese. She keeps telling him they are done, she doesn't want him in her life, etc. and he is like a puppy dog around her. She might swat him with a rolled up newspaper is he doesn't leave her alone. Aylin and Hilmi are discussing Gonul. The email was professionally anonymized so they can't trace it. That should indicate something is not right about the emails. It just hit me. teflon will know right away the baby is Yuzzie's. There is no way it could be his. Will he try to slip an abortifacient to her? He is just that kind of creep. He had to stuggle to put on a happy face for her. Hilmi thinks Ali and Nese are together behind his back. I wonder if he will give her the boot. Juju Gonfool is having morning sickness so Finage will figure it out. I figured out that Ridvan isn't YUzzie's brother after all, just his apprentice. Not sure how I got that wrong. Music made Yuzie's finger move. Good sign. Now he remembers hearing the music with Gonful. Maybe he will wake up soon and be the one to find her. Hilmi is going to tale Teflon this time, following him from the hospital. But I think he is dinig with his sister tonight. Not sure. Doesn't matter. Hilmi is an idiot, doesn't know how to tail someone without getting made. He even has a light on in his car shining no his face, almost like he was trying to be noticed. So Hilmi won't find her tonight. How could anyone believe that Gonful would leave town when Yuzul was in a coma? She would be there by his side the whole time. An old customer found Figen and is blackmailing her to keep seeing him. Trouble is brewing.

Nese is pleased as punch that Hilmi got jealous of Ali. He looked up everyting about him and put him in his place.

Yuzul is waking up now. Just in time before his dad was going to move him. He hasn't moved in months and he's having trouble. It will be funny if he walks out and his dad shows up to find him missing. He will raise holy hell.

How the hell did he get his clothes? Oh, this is in his mind I guess. Oh shit. That whole sequence was a dream of his. He didn't wake up yet. but his eyes are moving a lot, a very good sign. Tefik was not a happy man when he heard Gonul is pregnant. He knows what that means. Now Yuzul is awake. He wants Gonul and her absence is troubling him. He didn't see her and closed his eyes.

Terrible Tekin is struggling to keep from exploding and destroying things. He tries to act pleased when she is around, but trembles in anger when she can't see him. And Figen is equally upset about the pregnancy knowing it seals the deal with Tekin and Gonul, as far as she can see anyway. Soon people will know she was a whore, and she feels she has no chance with Tekin now. I wonder if Tekin will blow her off and she will get angry and decide to get back at him by telling Hilmi or someone where Gonul is? That is possible. Tekin would kill her if he knew she did that, but she could figure a way for it to happen so it didn't indicate she was the one. Something needs to trigger Gonul's memories before she gets defiled by Tekin. She would probably want to kill herself if that happened. Gonul invited Tekin to sleep beside her again which made him very happy. But I wonder how long before she says Yuzul in her sleep and flips him out again. Tekin goes jogging and can't quit thinking about the pregnancy, and how she got that way. Yuzul is really awake this time and asking for Gonul.

end of episode 18

I have just finished Ep 19. There is a new female character been introduced. She is one of these cocky over confident women who wear evening clothes to work. I think she will be the cause of some confusion for Tefik. I think that Figleaf is disgusted and troubled by the attitude of Tefik towards the baby. Figleaf has stopped her taking the tablets but Tefik has told her it is ok to do so. The thing is that he has only recently found out about the pregnancy so the tablets she is taking can't be specifically to induce an abortion - and she has been taking them for a long while. I am not sure about that scenario because although he is a violent psychopath we don't know if he has killed anybody yet. He didn't kill Yusuf when he found him at the accident scene and he didn't kill Mete either. We still don't know for sure what happened to his ex girlfriend who committed suicide supposedly. I don't think he murdered her - they may have had a violent confrontation during which she died by accident. It has become quite slow at the moment - there is a sort of sisterhood growing between Figleaf and Gonforgood and I think maybe Figleaf will help her to be rescued. Aylin - Hilmi - Ridvan and that guy who calls Yusuf brother - the one he fell out with because he thought he betrayed him - they finagled a meeting without Yusuf's father and bodyguards being there - and Yusuf is trying to remember the accident. They still have no clue what happened or where Gontothedogs is located or even if she is still alive.

I was thinking the same thing about Figleaf. I think she likes Gonfoolingaround and is becoming disgusted with Teflon. One more slap and harsh comment from him and Figleaf may decide to help Gofigure.

2- Also you're probably right about Telniff not killing the baby. He doesn't seem the sort to kill an innocent. But he did seem quite ready to murder Yuzul when he told Gonuts not to call him.

update: Tekni wants her to miscarry though he claims the pills won't do it. But Figleaf is not sure. Will she take the pills to a druggist and ask him if they are safe? She ought to.

Vermin's terrible mother has come to visit and wants to fire everyone, terrorize the staff, etc. What a witch. I can understand why Vermin is an awful person now.

Figen is switching the pills for prenatal vitamins or something I think. Tecknic has everyone fooled into thinking he has a new girlfriend and is over Gonul. Zull doesn't know where to look. Hilmis doesn't know. I think it is up to Figen to slip a clue to them. Figen is not terribly bright. She doesn't realize that Tecknic is manipulating her. She was going to leave, and when he heard that he put his arm around her and told her he missed her and wanted to spend time with her. Suddenly she felt hope that maybe it was true and she had a chance. As well as she knows him, how could she fall for that? Vermin called and told Tekin that Zul woke up.

Gofine remembers being dropped at Mother Hitake's place now, a fragmented memory.

Tifnik the liar is home with flowers now saying he missed his wife. She kissed him to check if those were the lips she remembered. Nope. She knows her love is someone else. She may be worried that she cheated on her husband. She doesn't know.

Zul told his father to forget about him, that he only wanted to find Gonfornow. Zul visits Hitake, nowhere else to go.

Ridvan calls, in trouble, beaten up. His new boss beat him up. Zul beat up his boss.

Finage realizes that since she switched the pills, Gonfornow will start to remember things. She slaps her forehead saying oh my god, what have I done?

Zul remembers there were dice hanging from the mirror of the car that hit him. When he says that Hilmi knows exactly who hit him: Alpo. He calls Alpo and tricks him into meeting with him, ostensibly to change the will to give him an equal share with Vermin, and Hilmi his old job back. Alpo, the greedy, beady eyed weasel falls for it and comes to meet Hilmi.

Figen sends a text to Tekin's phone telling him she is remembering, we are fucked. Ali is in his office and sees it.

3- Beginning to watch episode 23.

I have a theory about Selma and the picture she has not unwrapped or hung yet. I am betting she is related to ilknur and she is there to learn all about Tekin.

Ali told Nese what he found out and she is troubled by the knowledge. You'll have to see what that is about.

There was a tease at the beginning of episode 22. Zul turned to buy flowers and someone walked right by him, then he turned and continued walking the other way.

There is trouble in artificial paradise. Tufnik is living in two worlds and can't effectively maintain the illusion he wants Juju to see. She believes he is secretly seeing an old girlfriend named Gonul; he says her name in his sleep.

Vermin is scared that Zul's evil father will get her if she does anything to Zul so she can't.

Ozlem is as bad as Tekin. "If your heart is silent I'll talk with your conscience" she says to a picture of Yuzul. She figured a way to get his attention. It is a sad way to get him to check up on her.

Also, the way Tekin blackmailed Ali to keep his secret was ridiculous. Ali shouldn't have been affected by that at all. There was no way Tekin could tie him to what he did.

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OK, Tell me where you are in the story. Some things have happened, but some things seem stuck the way they are as things develop. There have been some character development things going on, things with Selma, and Hilma and Nese, and Ali, and Mete, and a homeless boy Gonul has fed a couple of times and tried to shelter, and Mahmut and Aylin, and others. The action aspect has cooled down for now.

Let me know where you are in the story.

I am way behind you (no change there soapmaster!!) I am on Ep 20. Not that much is happening - Figleaf has changed Gofools medication - strangely the vitamins are in exactly the same colour and shape of the tablets she has been taking. She has had a pain - but Figleaf says - you are pregnant - you must expect some pain - really ? Yusuf has found his feet and told his father he does not want to see him any more - he has money that his mother left him - oh - that's handy - why was he working as a lowly carpenter then? He is going to buy Oslem's shop for double the price - silly Yusucker - he doesn't have a head for business obviously. Tefik has shown himself to be in league with Vermin - and now we have Vermama - geez - what a horror! Bunboy is not happy. Gonabroad is having flashbacks about kissing somebody - it's not Ahmet - who can it be? And those lips - have you noticed how most of the younger women in these soaps have filler in their upper lips so that they protrude over their bottom lips - it seems to be the fashion these days. I think it makes them look like fishes. Not a lot is going on - Selma is not there for the good of her health - she has a hidden agenda for sure - I think maybe you are right about her being some relation to the suicide girl friend. Unless she is an undercover investigator for Hilmi because he couldn't follow a recipe - that following of Tefik was a joke - who drives or sits in a car with the interior lights on? Yusucker is about to visit Hatike - I am halfway through this episode.

Yeah, Hilmi was right behind Tonto tailing him, and then turned the interior lights on his face when it got dark. Good way to hide. He was only missing a siren and flashing lights and a loud speaker, "don't go too fast, don't lose me, hey where are you going? Are you hiding the girl?" Stick to legal work Hilmi.

I am starting episode 28 so not that far ahead. I think I will see what shows I've recorded on regular TV and catch up on some of that. I also found a show called Secrets of WWII or something like that on Prime TV which is interesting. One of the episodes was about women spies. One lady was a spy for the Brits and the Americans at different times. She lost a leg earlier in life so had a wooden leg. Once the Krauts figured out who she was she had to hike over the mountains. She nicknamed her wooden leg "Cuthbert". The hard trek resulted in her stump getting a bit bloody. She radioed that Cuthbert was giving her a little trouble. They sent back 'If Cuthbert is giving you trouble, eliminate him'. lol

I've noticed that several characters in this show seem to have a version of Tekin's obsession with the object of their desires. They just won't accept the message when they are told "hey, I have nothing against you but I don't share your feelings. I am not into you. You don't do it for me. I don't find you attractive in that way. Please stop making overtures. Get on with your life and find someone else who reciprocates your feelings" and so on. They listen to all that and then get this determined look on their face and double down their efforts to win them over. And even when the message is repeated to them, more forcefully and increasingly with irritation at their obstinence (I TOLD you already, we are ONLY friends, and that is ALL we will ever be. STOP harassing me, and GO AWAY) they can't seem to accept it. With Tekan, his reaction is to insist that he doesn't feel that way so she must accept that they are a couple, even if he must beat it into her head, or hypnotize her or something. The others either act really stupid, as though the words they hear don't make any sense to them (I don't understand, something is off about you, are you feeling sick? Maybe you should get some rest and see if you feel normal tomorrow), or they take it as a challenge (maybe if I change my hairstyle he will love me). It's a theme in this show.

The Wicked Witch of Vermin's parentage thinks the proper way to talk to servants is to bitch at them whether anything is wrong or not. Vermin seems like a nice person beside her mother, and she is a scheming, money grubbing, immoral snake. Vermama wants Vermin to fire Alpo. As awful as Vermin treats her bun wearing dog food named partner in crime, she has some degree of something which could resemble affection, if the light hits it just right, for him. But he is expendable like everyone and everything else if they could foul up her plans on stealing the money. Time will tell.

Once in a while I see a woman who screwed up the process for fattening her lips; they are HUGE. She must have to open her mouth extra wide to eat dinner. A strong wind could cause an aerodynamic effect and set up a vibration with those fat things flubbering about and shaking her head around. She could wind up in a neck brace with struts to support the lips. They have gone WAY past the sexy look. But on the positive side, if she fell forward onto her face they might cushion the impact and bounce her back onto her feet. Honestly, some women go for too much in their quest for attractiveness. I see a lot of actresses who I think look much better without makeup. Some women put huge balloons in their chests, again they go way past any sexy look. Maybe they are trying to advertise that they are very loose, bimbo girls. And the artificial buttock enhancement surgeries...yuck. Some rapper in the 90s made a song saying "I like big butts" and since then girls have been adding blubber to their butts. I have to think their self esteem is in the gutter.

Selma is a woman on a mission. At first I thought maybe she was just a strong independent archetype woman who expressed her "progressiveness" by adopting a sexual predator behavior, like many men, and that that was why she was apparently pursuing Tekin. But I think she is up to something more than that.

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The way this story is being told. Tekin truly is warped. I can't get a good grasp on what his particular mental defect is supposed to be, but apparently his father did a lot of damage to him both by failing to give affection or spend good time with him, and also by failing to teach him responsibility and proper social conduct. Whenever Tekin exhibited troubling behavior which ought to have placed him into the justice system or into psychiatric care, the father used his influence to prevent that happening. He also failed to impress upon Tekin how wrong his behavior was. He seemed to think that preventing him facing any consequences for his anti-social behavior and hoping for the best was the way to handle things. He wanted to cover up the crimes and prevent any damage to his reputation and keep Tekin's record clean. He trained him to mimic the right emotional responses which could prevent more serious sequellae, so he trained him to be a con man. To an anti-social personality, that just made him more dangerous as it allowed him to manipulate people, to present a respectable image to the world, while enabling him to secretly do harm to people. I think the father also failed to say No to Tekin. He let him do and have whatever he wanted. Or if he did tell him no sometimes, and Tekin went ahead and did as he pleased, he failed to do anything about it. And Tekin learned to manipulate and con his father very quickly as well. Tekin lacks real remorse, though he knows how to pretend he is sorry in order to fit in with normal people, and to manipulate people. Becoming a skilled surgeon gave him prestige and a good reputation, which is very useful to him. I cannot tell if we are to believe that he has some level of genuine concern for others, or if he has learned to act that way because such behavior is part of the identity which is so useful to him in having what he wants.

At any rate, his drive to have his own way by any means necessary is very pathological, and he has a huge blind spot. He seems to think he can continue to con people, threaten people, manipulate people, etc. and continue to avoid responsibility for his actions. He also seems to think he can use all these skills to force Gonul to fall in love with him, if he can just pump her full of enough drugs to confuse her long enough for his plan to work. And if he could do that, how does he plan to explain his fake marriage and his double life with her? He is blinded by his obsessional need to force his will upon the world. If it doesn't work out his way he becomes furious and doubles down, using fake concern, anger, threats, etc. to make others concede. But he has built a house of cards. It cannot stand in the long run, despite his insistence, his anger, his lies, his threats, his guilt inducing manipulations, and his facade of normality. His punishment will be when reality comes crashing down when all his efforts fail to give him what he wants, when he must face the consequences of his actions. His head will explode.

I am halfway through Ep 21 - I have to stop to express my contempt for the way this has been written. Yusuf and his band of merry men that now - inexplicably includes Sabat - lure bunboy to Hatice's and make an appointment with him at some outdoor café where they kidnap him from. But Bunboy is crafty - first he says his phone is on the floor - thus drawing attention to it - then he somehow gets it up from the floor and onto the seat where he somehow dials vermin's number and hey presto - all that remains is to give her a blow by blow account of where they are going - are we going over the bridge - are you taking me to the other side - are we on Riva road - are we going to the old factory - Geez!! and nobody tumbles to what he is doing - what a bunch of morons. They beat him up but he continues his conversation with Vermin - begs her for his life - but - boom - no more bunboy - I almost felt sorry for him. At no point did Yusuf search him - he could have had a gun let alone a phone - they knew he had a phone because they called him on it - furthermore they bury him with the phone still in his pocket - they don't notice that they are being photographed from about 10 feet away by two men. Ali has followed Tekin and seen Gonfool. She has confronted him about the engraving on the watch - to which he replies - I am very tired of you not believing me - and retires to the bedroom with no explanation. Gonfool is cleaning shelves in response.

Yes, that episode was so full of stupidity that I didn't like it either. And GoneAreHerBrains didn't notice the classic Tekin manipulation for avoiding proof that he lied; he expressed a form of outrage that she didn't believe him (with proof of his lie right there) coupled with a heavy dose of guilt inducing manipulation. Her refusal to believe him instead of the facts was making him physically tired, and he just couldn't put up with that abuse any longer! When she failed to at least roll her eyes in contempt at his comment I was annoyed. It was almost like she fell for it, like an abused woman when she explains it is her fault that he beat her because she made him angry by making the toast too dark. I think she was just tired of dealing with him though. Later on she brings up the fact that the watch proves he lied.

Bunboy lied when he said the phone went on the floor. He had secreted it to the other side of his leg. He just wanted them to think he didn't have it where he could make a call. They were like the gang that couldn't shoot straight. Why not search him? Hilmi would have wanted to look at that phone right away so they could confront him with the facts revealed on it: text messages, phone calls to various people, and so on. It was a treasure trove of information, which is exactly what they were seeking. You need a set of facts on hand when you question someone so you can catch them in lies, and punish them for each lie. Bunboy was smarter than I ever gave him credit for, though he lacked morals. I knew there would come a time when he learned just how little Vermin cared for him compared to her money. He knew he was a liability and was trying to negotiate his life, but she made a cold decision. They portrayed Vermin as having feelings for him after that, but she never did before. She barely registered much over contempt for him much of the time.

So now Team Vermin has leverage on Team Yusuf which they hope can prevent them pushing ahead to find Gonefornow.

But Yusuf is in lerve, as you put it. The prospect of prison means nothing compared to saving his true love from the clutches of sociopath Tekin. So he will press ahead.

I wonder if Yusuf will win Juju's love, stealing the fake wife from the fake drug salesman just as he took Gonul from doctor Tekin. Tekin's plan is to keep Gonul's memory blank and make her fall in love from a clean slate. But he is so unlovable when you get to know him that how could that ever work? Tekin's head would really explode if Yusuf managed to make her fall in love all over again while she still has amnesia.

Open Tekin's skull, place bomb inside, close skull, and then run far away very fast. Kaboom.

Lol !! What a picture to put in my head. I am ploughing through ep 22 now - Forgot to mention that doodle Ali followed Tekin to his lair and Gonfool clocked him but she didn't recognise him. She watches them having a furious argument outside after midnight - but doesn't question it. Maybe this is why Hilmi revealed that Ali finished four from last in his class - he is basically thick - that is why he accepted Tekin's nonsense threat of saying he would lay the blame at his door. I am puzzled now - Gonforawalk goes to a park and sees Yusuf who has his back to her - of course he doesn't turn around - tired old trope - now - if this park is within the town where they both live - why hasn't somebody spotted Gonfool yet? She goes to have a scan in a hospital - it's not impossible that hospital staff move around - there is a chance she would bump into an old colleague - but no - ex- clients can find Figleaf but nobody spots Gonegirl. Your analysis of freakin Tekin seems spot on - I am just surprised that he hasn't killed anybody yet.

I'm not convinced that he hasn't killed anyone yet. I imagine that if he has, that chicken will come home to roost by the end of the show.

Figleaf may yet be spotted since she didn't move far away as she had originally planned, before Tekin imposed his will upon her "I need you" and she agreed to locate in the poor side of town.

By the way, I saw another article about Epstein. A doctor who saw the autopsy said it was more consistent with homicidal strangulation than suicidal hanging, which we already have heard. Here is his quote:

“The prominent hemorrhage in the soft tissues of the neck next to the fractures is evidence of a fresh neck compression that could have caused the death,” Baden told Fox News on Wednesday.

“Those three fractures are extremely unusual in suicidal hangings and could occur much more commonly in homicidal strangulation.”

“I’ve not seen in 50 years where that occurred in a suicidal hanging case,” the 85-year-old medical examiner added.

Also this: "Nearby prisoners say they heard “shrieking and shouting” coming from Epstein’s cell the morning he died, CBS reported."

Yes - I read that report. I don't see how they can possibly keep on denying it. But they will because nobody seems to have the power or the inclination to challenge them. The global elite have joined forces and will not be held to account. This time it was one of their own - the only satisfaction is knowing that now those remaining will realise that if it could happen to a billionaire who was a member of their club - then it could happen to them - they will be walking on eggshells in the future.