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When a show fires the one person who knows Tolkien because he complains about them deviating too much doesnt give you a warm and fuzzy feeling

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@bratface said:

I just wasn't a big Rings fan. I saw the first 3 movies (#1 got 7/10, #2 got 6/10, & #3 went way down to 2/10).

I wasn't eager for the TV show or a huge Rings fan myself but having seen the movies and being really impressed by them rating a LOTR film from the first trilogy at mere 2/10 is just blasphemy!

What is it that you didn't like in the 3rd movie?

@lostincinema said:

@bratface said:

I just wasn't a big Rings fan. I saw the first 3 movies (#1 got 7/10, #2 got 6/10, & #3 went way down to 2/10).

I wasn't eager for the TV show or a huge Rings fan myself but having seen the movies and being really impressed by them rating a LOTR film from the first trilogy at mere 2/10 is just blasphemy!

What is it that you didn't like in the 3rd movie?

I was so sick of Frodo & Sam's whining, I just wanted them to jump in the volcano along with the ring.

@bratface said:

@lostincinema said:

@bratface said:

I just wasn't a big Rings fan. I saw the first 3 movies (#1 got 7/10, #2 got 6/10, & #3 went way down to 2/10).

I wasn't eager for the TV show or a huge Rings fan myself but having seen the movies and being really impressed by them rating a LOTR film from the first trilogy at mere 2/10 is just blasphemy!

What is it that you didn't like in the 3rd movie?

I was so sick of Frodo & Sam's whining, I just wanted them to jump in the volcano along with the ring.


Nori and Poppy are more fun to watch. wink grinning

IMDb rating is now 6.8 and climbing towards 7 and beyond. 10 out of 10 stars is holding at 32.9%, 1 out of 10 stars pushed down from 27.1% to 24.4%. Is Amazon winning the battle? thinking

@bratface said:

I personally will not pay to see this. If it ever came to somewhere for free, I might. I just wasn't a big Rings fan. I saw the first 3 movies (#1 got 7/10, #2 got 6/10, & #3 went way down to 2/10). Even though the books were big back when I went to HS, I just wasn't interested in them.

As for Dragon, I have watched the first episode (it was on YT for free). It was a meh! I will wait until it's done & then subscribe to HBO for a month & binge it.

Wow. You gave Return of the King 2 out of 10 stars? It doesn't really matter whether or not you are a LOTR fan. To objectively give a film of that caliber the rating of a throwaway POS film seems disingenuous.

@movie_nazi said:

@bratface said:

I personally will not pay to see this. If it ever came to somewhere for free, I might. I just wasn't a big Rings fan. I saw the first 3 movies (#1 got 7/10, #2 got 6/10, & #3 went way down to 2/10). Even though the books were big back when I went to HS, I just wasn't interested in them.

As for Dragon, I have watched the first episode (it was on YT for free). It was a meh! I will wait until it's done & then subscribe to HBO for a month & binge it.

Wow. You gave Return of the King 2 out of 10 stars? It doesn't really matter whether or not you are a LOTR fan. To objectively give a film of that caliber the rating of a throwaway POS film seems disingenuous.

Why? I gave my reason above. In my opinion, it wasn't the best of the 3. The Oscar was given for the trilogy as a whole.

@bratface said:

@movie_nazi said:

@bratface said:

I personally will not pay to see this. If it ever came to somewhere for free, I might. I just wasn't a big Rings fan. I saw the first 3 movies (#1 got 7/10, #2 got 6/10, & #3 went way down to 2/10). Even though the books were big back when I went to HS, I just wasn't interested in them.

As for Dragon, I have watched the first episode (it was on YT for free). It was a meh! I will wait until it's done & then subscribe to HBO for a month & binge it.

Wow. You gave Return of the King 2 out of 10 stars? It doesn't really matter whether or not you are a LOTR fan. To objectively give a film of that caliber the rating of a throwaway POS film seems disingenuous.

Why? I gave my reason above. In my opinion, it wasn't the best of the 3. The Oscar was given for the trilogy as a whole.

When you give a film a 2 out of 10 stars you are essentially saying:

Acting = crap

Story = crap

special effects = crap

music = crap

cinematography = crap

wardrobe/costume = OK, I guess

Did it give me the warm and fuzzys? No, so = crap

It just seems when people give a film either a 1 or a 10 then there really isn't a lot of thought put into that rating and I find that disappointing. I mean, if you truly feel in your heart of hearts that every single aspect of the film was complete garbage and that is your complete and honest thoroughly thought out opinion then no one can argue that. I do find it extremally peculiar though. 😕

@bratface said:

@lostincinema said:

@bratface said:

I just wasn't a big Rings fan. I saw the first 3 movies (#1 got 7/10, #2 got 6/10, & #3 went way down to 2/10).

I wasn't eager for the TV show or a huge Rings fan myself but having seen the movies and being really impressed by them rating a LOTR film from the first trilogy at mere 2/10 is just blasphemy!

What is it that you didn't like in the 3rd movie?

I was so sick of Frodo & Sam's whining, I just wanted them to jump in the volcano along with the ring.

LOL. 😆

I felt the same for some some movies but never for LOTR first trilogy. If you hate it then you hate it I guess.

@movie_nazi said:

@bratface said:

@movie_nazi said:

@bratface said:

I personally will not pay to see this. If it ever came to somewhere for free, I might. I just wasn't a big Rings fan. I saw the first 3 movies (#1 got 7/10, #2 got 6/10, & #3 went way down to 2/10). Even though the books were big back when I went to HS, I just wasn't interested in them.

As for Dragon, I have watched the first episode (it was on YT for free). It was a meh! I will wait until it's done & then subscribe to HBO for a month & binge it.

Wow. You gave Return of the King 2 out of 10 stars? It doesn't really matter whether or not you are a LOTR fan. To objectively give a film of that caliber the rating of a throwaway POS film seems disingenuous.

Why? I gave my reason above. In my opinion, it wasn't the best of the 3. The Oscar was given for the trilogy as a whole.

When you give a film a 2 out of 10 stars you are essentially saying:

Acting = crap

Story = crap

special effects = crap

music = crap

cinematography = crap

wardrobe/costume = OK, I guess

Did it give me the warm and fuzzys? No, so = crap

It just seems when people give a film either a 1 or a 10 then there really isn't a lot of thought put into that rating and I find that disappointing. I mean, if you truly feel in your heart of hearts that every single aspect of the film was complete garbage and that is your complete and honest thoroughly thought out opinion then no one can argue that. I do find it extremally peculiar though. 😕

It's all about the how the film resonates with someone.

A work of art may reduce a person to tears but might feel bland for another person.

Some people like LOTR movies some don't, that's it. Just because something is critically well received doesn't n mean everyone has to like it or that there should be a minimum rating (no less than 5/10 etc).

@lostincinema said:

@movie_nazi said:

@bratface said:

@movie_nazi said:

@bratface said:

I personally will not pay to see this. If it ever came to somewhere for free, I might. I just wasn't a big Rings fan. I saw the first 3 movies (#1 got 7/10, #2 got 6/10, & #3 went way down to 2/10). Even though the books were big back when I went to HS, I just wasn't interested in them.

As for Dragon, I have watched the first episode (it was on YT for free). It was a meh! I will wait until it's done & then subscribe to HBO for a month & binge it.

Wow. You gave Return of the King 2 out of 10 stars? It doesn't really matter whether or not you are a LOTR fan. To objectively give a film of that caliber the rating of a throwaway POS film seems disingenuous.

Why? I gave my reason above. In my opinion, it wasn't the best of the 3. The Oscar was given for the trilogy as a whole.

When you give a film a 2 out of 10 stars you are essentially saying:

Acting = crap

Story = crap

special effects = crap

music = crap

cinematography = crap

wardrobe/costume = OK, I guess

Did it give me the warm and fuzzys? No, so = crap

It just seems when people give a film either a 1 or a 10 then there really isn't a lot of thought put into that rating and I find that disappointing. I mean, if you truly feel in your heart of hearts that every single aspect of the film was complete garbage and that is your complete and honest thoroughly thought out opinion then no one can argue that. I do find it extremally peculiar though. 😕

It's all about the how the film resonates with someone.

A work of art may reduce a person to tears but might feel bland for another person.

Some people like LOTR movies some don't, that's it. Just because something is critically well received doesn't n mean everyone has to like it or that there should be a minimum rating (no less than 5/10 etc).

Call me strange but I feel that films are more than if it tickled our fees fees or not. Is that an important factor? Yes, absolutely and I would even concede that it may be the most important factor. But a 1 to 10 scale exists for a reason. If all that matters for a film was whether or not it gave me the feel goods then all we need is the moronic thumbs up or down that Netflix and Youtube have resorted to because god forbid a more accurate assessment among the consensus is achieved.

@movie_nazi said:

@lostincinema said:

@movie_nazi said:

@bratface said:

@movie_nazi said:

@bratface said:

I personally will not pay to see this. If it ever came to somewhere for free, I might. I just wasn't a big Rings fan. I saw the first 3 movies (#1 got 7/10, #2 got 6/10, & #3 went way down to 2/10). Even though the books were big back when I went to HS, I just wasn't interested in them.

As for Dragon, I have watched the first episode (it was on YT for free). It was a meh! I will wait until it's done & then subscribe to HBO for a month & binge it.

Wow. You gave Return of the King 2 out of 10 stars? It doesn't really matter whether or not you are a LOTR fan. To objectively give a film of that caliber the rating of a throwaway POS film seems disingenuous.

Why? I gave my reason above. In my opinion, it wasn't the best of the 3. The Oscar was given for the trilogy as a whole.

When you give a film a 2 out of 10 stars you are essentially saying:

Acting = crap

Story = crap

special effects = crap

music = crap

cinematography = crap

wardrobe/costume = OK, I guess

Did it give me the warm and fuzzys? No, so = crap

It just seems when people give a film either a 1 or a 10 then there really isn't a lot of thought put into that rating and I find that disappointing. I mean, if you truly feel in your heart of hearts that every single aspect of the film was complete garbage and that is your complete and honest thoroughly thought out opinion then no one can argue that. I do find it extremally peculiar though. 😕

It's all about the how the film resonates with someone.

A work of art may reduce a person to tears but might feel bland for another person.

Some people like LOTR movies some don't, that's it. Just because something is critically well received doesn't n mean everyone has to like it or that there should be a minimum rating (no less than 5/10 etc).

Call me strange but I feel that films are more than if it tickled our fees fees or not. Is that an important factor? Yes, absolutely and I would even concede that it may be the most important factor. But a 1 to 10 scale exists for a reason. If all that matters for a film was whether or not it gave me the feel goods then all we need is the moronic thumbs up or down that Netflix and Youtube have resorted to because god forbid a more accurate assessment among the consensus is achieved.

You are literally arguing against "art is subjective."

Even if the best director with the best screenplay and the best actors makes a film and even when the critics call it the best movie it doesn't mean no one can rate it 2/10. There is no obligation to like any piece of art.

@lostincinema said:

@bratface said:

@lostincinema said:

@bratface said:

I just wasn't a big Rings fan. I saw the first 3 movies (#1 got 7/10, #2 got 6/10, & #3 went way down to 2/10).

I wasn't eager for the TV show or a huge Rings fan myself but having seen the movies and being really impressed by them rating a LOTR film from the first trilogy at mere 2/10 is just blasphemy!

What is it that you didn't like in the 3rd movie?

I was so sick of Frodo & Sam's whining, I just wanted them to jump in the volcano along with the ring.

LOL. 😆

I felt the same for some some movies but never for LOTR first trilogy. If you hate it then you hate it I guess.

I liked the first two, it was ROTK that I didn't like.

@bratface said:

I liked the first two, it was ROTK that I didn't like.

I should have been more clear; that is what I meant.

@wonder2wonder said:

@bratface said:

@wonder2wonder said:

@lostincinema said:

@bratface said:

https://screenrant.com/rings-of-power-reviews-suspended-amazon-review-bomb/

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/lord-of-the-rings-the-rings-of-power-amazon-review-bombed-1235211190/

So Amazon reserves a right to suspend reviews on it's platform essentially shaping the discourse. That's worrying! And who says it's review bombing? Maybe that is how the audience felt? Seems kinda like how Jaywalking is invented.


Amazon cannot fail, or else they go under with this billion dollar show and people will be out of work. So - according to Amazon - all negative user reviews must be blocked or removed - also on IMDb. There is review bombing, but the positive - 10 out of 10 stars (a third of the total) - outweigh the negative - 1 out of 10 stars. Now viewers only - mostly - see positive user reviews and so they will continue watching the show, leading to huge viewer ratings.

Amazon does not control Rotten Tomatoes - yet - but they are trying to get the audience score above 38%.

Well they aren't completely controlling the ratings on IMDb, here are the ratings as of 11:55am Sunday :

IMDb Users

80,735 IMDb users have given a weighted average vote of 6.7 / 10

Rating Votes

10 32.9% 26,595

9 10.4% 8,381

8 9.8% 7,943

7 4.7% 3,767

6 2.9% 2,337

5 3.0% 2,426

4 2.5% 2,047

3 3.4% 2,783

2 5.1% 4,083

1 25.2% 20,373

Although they aren't showing the written user reviews that have five stars or less.


IMDb user ratings on Friday was 5.3. I was reading the user reviews then, there were 226, mostly 1-3 stars (out of 10). Then the page disappeared and there were 0 reviews. Later today I checked and there were 75 reviews, only one at 1 star. I just checked again, and that has been removed, there are now 74 reviews. grinning

As I've already noted, this battle with the users is interesting. The show also seems to be competing with the HBO series "House of the Dragon (2022-)", where on IMDb negative user reviews are allowed.

Really shouldn't be compared to House of the Dragon though, one is written by a world renowned competent writer and the other is a fan fiction written in middle earth

After the purge of negative reviews - 1 to 5 out of 10 stars from 2 September 2022 - in the past week, IMDb user ratings seem to have settled - for now - at 6.8 with 31.3% 10 out of 10 stars and 24.3% 1 out of 10 stars. Approved negative reviews - lower than 6 out of 10 stars - are now visible too.

@wonder2wonder said:

After the purge of negative reviews - 1 to 5 out of 10 stars from 2 September 2022 - in the past week, IMDb user ratings seem to have settled - for now - at 6.8 with 31.3% 10 out of 10 stars and 24.3% 1 out of 10 stars. Approved negative reviews - lower than 6 out of 10 stars - are now visible too.

Thats more close to what this show deserves its not as bad as a lot of the trolls are saying but its no where near the perfect show but then again its only a fan fiction based in Tolkiens universe

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