Early in the story of TMDb, ratings here tended to be lower than over at IMDb and that made some sense to me, as those who were inclined to leave IMDb after Amazon acquired it and shuttered its discussion board were likely more serious cinephiles who rated movies more objectively and less emotionally/personally. It's impossible that most movies should ever see a rating above 8, and IMDb has plenty of people doling out 9s and 10s for claptrap.

If, however, shills are padding reviews or a bot is scurrying, here on TMDb, that'd be sad.

That said, I take any rating from ANY site with big, course grains of salt. Like what you like, don't like what you don't; how the wider audience views it is entirely a different discussion topic. And don't even get me started about awards!

Yeah, that percentage makes no sense given the available reviews. Has anyone complained to the mods yet?

Same with the TV show Game of Thrones. The response to the ending is so bad the creators skipped comic con but it had insane number of 10/10s.

At least IMDB has got a complicated rating system. I wonder if TMDB rating system is rather simplistic in comparison... making all this vote manipulation even worse.

@lostincinema said:

Same with the TV show Game of Thrones. The response to the ending is so bad the creators skipped comic con but it had insane number of 10/10s.

At least IMDB has got a complicated rating system. I wonder if TMDB rating system is rather simplistic in comparison... making all this vote manipulation even worse.

Although I have been here since February 2017, I didn't realise until today (I hadn't explored that part) that we could rate individual episodes of TV shows! 🙄

If you look at the rating for the last episode, you will see that it is rated 4.2. Pretty bad in my book.

@bratface said:

@lostincinema said:

Same with the TV show Game of Thrones. The response to the ending is so bad the creators skipped comic con but it had insane number of 10/10s.

At least IMDB has got a complicated rating system. I wonder if TMDB rating system is rather simplistic in comparison... making all this vote manipulation even worse.

Although I have been here since February 2017, I didn't realise until today (I hadn't explored that part) that we could rate individual episodes of TV shows! 🙄

Thanks to you, I now know this today, too!

If you look at the rating for the last episode, you will see that it is rated 4.2. Pretty bad in my book.

Yep, that is pretty bad.

Perhaps, for those who may be so inclined, if they checked in with a few episodes about which they feel strongly either way and see if the individual episode rating reflects where they'd have put it, that'd give a better sense of how on or off the ratings are.

I've never watched the show, so that kind of exercise is above my pay grade...but, it might be a worthwhile exercise in better calibrating the value of TMDb's rating - or, at least, that TMDb is accurately capturing what the wider audience is thinking about the show, beyond your own individual views.

@DRDMovieMusings said:

@bratface said:

@lostincinema said:

Same with the TV show Game of Thrones. The response to the ending is so bad the creators skipped comic con but it had insane number of 10/10s.

At least IMDB has got a complicated rating system. I wonder if TMDB rating system is rather simplistic in comparison... making all this vote manipulation even worse.

Although I have been here since February 2017, I didn't realise until today (I hadn't explored that part) that we could rate individual episodes of TV shows! 🙄

Thanks to you, I now know this today, too!

If you look at the rating for the last episode, you will see that it is rated 4.2. Pretty bad in my book.

Yep, that is pretty bad.

Perhaps, for those who may be so inclined, if they checked in with a few episodes about which they feel strongly either way and see if the individual episode rating reflects where they'd have put it, that'd give a better sense of how on or off the ratings are.

I've never watched the show, so that kind of exercise is above my pay grade...but, it might be a worthwhile exercise in better calibrating the value of TMDb's rating - or, at least, that TMDb is accurately capturing what the wider audience is thinking about the show, beyond your own individual views.

So you are one of the few people in the free world who hasn't seen GOT? May I ask why?

@bratface said:

@DRDMovieMusings said:

I've never watched the show, so that kind of exercise is above my pay grade...but, it might be a worthwhile exercise in better calibrating the value of TMDb's rating - or, at least, that TMDb is accurately capturing what the wider audience is thinking about the show, beyond your own individual views.

So you are one of the few people in the free world who hasn't seen GOT? May I ask why?

Of course, you can ask why!

I haven't watched it because it did not look interesting to me.

@bratface said:

@lostincinema said:

Same with the TV show Game of Thrones. The response to the ending is so bad the creators skipped comic con but it had insane number of 10/10s.

At least IMDB has got a complicated rating system. I wonder if TMDB rating system is rather simplistic in comparison... making all this vote manipulation even worse.

Although I have been here since February 2017, I didn't realise until today (I hadn't explored that part) that we could rate individual episodes of TV shows! 🙄

If you look at the rating for the last episode, you will see that it is rated 4.2. Pretty bad in my book.

All the more reason to think that the votes are manipulated. The malicious voters only bothered with the main rating.

Think about it, GoT has 10/10 with 10,000 votes. The next lower rating 6/10 with 3000, 7/10 with 500, 8/10 with 2000 and 9/10 with 2000 votes. That is a huge difference; if that is not vote manipulation I don't know what it.

But I must concede there is a counter argument. When you see the reviews there are six 10/10 reviews out of 10.

@DRDMovieMusings said:

@bratface said:

@DRDMovieMusings said:

I've never watched the show, so that kind of exercise is above my pay grade...but, it might be a worthwhile exercise in better calibrating the value of TMDb's rating - or, at least, that TMDb is accurately capturing what the wider audience is thinking about the show, beyond your own individual views.

So you are one of the few people in the free world who hasn't seen GOT? May I ask why?

Of course, you can ask why!

I haven't watched it because it did not look interesting to me.

Fair enough.

Has anybody else had problems commenting in this thread?

The reviews are fine. The show is obviously top-tier. The bad reviews only come from the massive Tolkien fanbase who are opposed to all cinematic adaptions and from people who have a problem with inclusiveness. Otherwise, the show would habe 80%+ on every website.

@Kumiho said:

The reviews are fine. The show is obviously top-tier. The bad reviews only come from the massive Tolkien fanbase who are opposed to all cinematic adaptions and from people who have a problem with inclusiveness. Otherwise, the show would habe 80%+ on every website.

If that's your take, you have not seen the show. Even as a standalone fantasy the show would be a 3/10. Tolkien fans had no problem of this magnitude with Peter Jackson's adaptions (and they deviated from canon in a number of ways). The inclusivity argument is driven by Amazon, not the fan base. And any criticism in that regard has it's basis, being that Tolkien wrote the books for a number of reasons, one of them being to give the people of the British Isles a mythology of their own, after being invaded and colonised for 1500 years, they had been denied the ability to form any free of foreign influence.

Almost 50% of the rating here are 10/10 and that is a political vote, it's not on the shows qualities or lack thereof. Try watching it, 2 episodes was enough for me. HotD has inclusivity and it is a great show, it's fantastic to have something fantasy TV that is not media managed and can stand on it's own feet.

Hmm...something fishy here...

User ratings (after 3 episodes)

Rotten Tomatoes: 39% (critics rating: 84%)

Amazon Prime: 3.1/5 - 62%

IMDb: 6.8/10 - 68%

TMDb: 76%

@wonder2wonder said:

User ratings (after 3 episodes)

Rotten Tomatoes: 39% (critics rating: 84%)

Amazon Prime: 3.1/5 - 62%

IMDb: 6.8/10 - 68%

TMDb: 76%

Yep, that is suspicious. TMDb indeed is high.

@DRDMovieMusings said:

@wonder2wonder said:

User ratings (after 3 episodes)

Rotten Tomatoes: 39% (critics rating: 84%)

Amazon Prime: 3.1/5 - 62%

IMDb: 6.8/10 - 68%

TMDb: 76%

Yep, that is suspicious. TMDb indeed is high.

You know, I was thinking that maybe a lot of the naysayers do not know about TMDB, so the ratings are higher?