Discuss Star Trek: Picard

No I haven't seen it but in fairness I will post this glowing review. Since I previously linked a bad review here then is a good one. Hopefully this will offer a chance to discuss the new show with positivity. If you are anti-Picard, no need to repeat your arguments as they are well known already. This is meant to be a pro Picard thread

https://www.wired.co.uk/article/star-trek-picard-review

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@Invidia said:

What's ABUNDANTLY CLEAR is how you 2 AIR HEADS can't seem get it through your THICK SKULLS that SPEAR is in NO POSITION to be CRITICAL of you two for being SEXIST …

(which you are when you use SILLY references like SNOWFLAKE as a way to refer to someone) ...

because he's JUST as SEXIST HIMSELF (which is also PROVEN by the way he refers to me as being THE OTHER).

In other words, ALL 3 of YOU are EQUALLY GUILTY of ATTEMPTING to DEHUMANIZE others by calling them SNOWFLAKES and referring to them as being AN OTHER.

rolling_eyes

I wasn't dehumanizing. anybody Invidia in fact I was against the whole thing remember it is the extreme PC groups that are responsible for this they are the ones demanding thing that words like Mankind,woman,Human and other words that make distinctions of gender or race are to be banned so we all are nothings just numbers or names no distinctions not any mention of anything that separates us it's basically Winston's Ministry Of Truth in 1984.

@Nexus71 said:

No same shit different day from the movie Dreamcatcher

I know. Think it's older than the movie. But MCSE? Microsoft Certified Solutions Expert?

The poster MCSE2000.

@Invidia said:

And that also creates a PROBLEM when the FEMALE is DIVORCED and is NEITHER a MRS. nor a MISS anymore.

So the entire time you WHINE about being A NOTHING, FEMALES have had to ENDURE that kind of TREATMENT for THOUSANDS of YEARS.

It was the "feminists" who came up with Ms, not anyone else.

In HOMER'S ODYSSEY his WIFE is also FORCED to ENDURE putting up with SUITORS who want to MARRY HER after her husband doesn't RETURN home again for 10 years (because a FEMALE of her STATUS was also FORCED to MARRY again even if she didn't want to due to her NOT being allowed to have her OWN PROPERTY).

So ODYSSEUS spends 10 YEARS wondering around COHORTING with HOOKERS and SIRENS (because he's GOT all of that LOOT he got from defeating those at TROY), and after he RUNS OUT of LOOT, he comes home BROKE and finds LOTS of OTHER MEN after his wife.

And the way his wife kept them at BAY was by telling the MALES she'd chose one of them after she finished WEAVING a TAPESTRY (which she would also PULL APART again each night as a way to STALL for more time).

You do get that was a STORY, right? Like those other STORIES on TV and in movies that you and some others on here, seem to thing represent actual life. And maybe that anyone who doesn't advocate burning all those books/movies/etc, must ipso facto agree with them.

Maybe you should take it up with Homer, who WROTE THE STORY, not us present-day people?

So before you COMPLAIN about having been MISTREATED, try being a FEMALE who still only makes about 70% of what a MALE does even WHEN doing the EXACT SAME JOB as the MALE does.

rolling_eyes

Leaving aside the "exact same job" stuff which isn't true, then you're REAL problem isn't with any REAL people, it's with the Ferengi. Who, after all, for thousands of year and even up to Federation times, kept their females unemployed, and naked - which doesn't seem like a good idea for a world that is apparently always cold and raining.

But then again, the Ferengi don't really exist either!

@Knixon said

It was the "feminists" who came up with Ms, not anyone else.

I thought the feminists used Mz. Anyways how about that planet on Next Gen where the women ruled. Weren't they going to execute Riker or something? For being too sexy I bet.

No for having too much breast hair.But looking at the case of being too sexy from a legislative perspective it was provocation from their part they wanted him to wear that shirt. laughing Also you can't blame Riker that some ladies who haven't seen an alpha male in decades can't control their horniness. laughing

@Oduntola: What a terrific post! This is exactly how I feel about the Canon Extremists complaining about Discovery and Picard. The shows are not your Father's Star Trek, but they are Star Trek. It's sad to see how toxic the Star Trek community has become.

What is toxic about ?not liking a show that is doom gloomy dystopia full of hate gruesome violence incest racial stereotypes belittling of the elder not the bright hopefull future with all inclusiveness and where species would settle conflicts by using their wits and power of diplomacy rather than murder violence sex and incest.Where the creators of the show can actually come up with something by themselves and write clever entertaining stories that make sense and look less like fantasy and more like science fiction.

Would you like to see (if he still was alive) a show where an older Robert Lansing as Gary 7 being belittled in every episode by Loretta and mostly other women for things he supposedly had done in the off screen time?I think you would pass on that.

@Damienracer sunglasses I'm a fangirl, not a fanboy. I apologise for saying "What the F**k is wrong with you ". I shouldn't have used that word. In the future I shall disagree with you more politely. Live Long and Prosper.

Meanwhile, back at the OP, has anyone else noticed that all of the Romulan characters have English or Irish accents?

@znexyish said:

@Nexus71 said:

No same shit different day from the movie Dreamcatcher

I know. Think it's older than the movie. But MCSE? Microsoft Certified Solutions Expert?

yes sir

@LansingFan said:

Meanwhile, back at the OP, has anyone else noticed that all of the Romulan characters have English or Irish accents?

Is everyone just using their natural accents? Orla Brady (the housekeeper) is Irish. Or lots of planets have an Ireland? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svi-fBXZzqI

@M. LeMarchand said:

Is everyone just using their natural accents? Orla Brady (the housekeeper) is Irish. Or lots of planets have an Ireland? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svi-fBXZzqI

Just realised, Peyton List (Narek's sister) isn't English - though she is a baddy and so it's Hollywood shorthand for them to have a British accent. She does do a pretty good job of it.

@Invidia said:

There's definitely something VERY FISHY going on in this show because ALL of the characters that we've met who are in POSITIONS of POWER have been WOMEN (even PICARD's FEMALE HOUSEKEEPER has also been more POWERFUL than the MALE one).

And We also find RIKER standing at the KITCHEN SINK doing the DISHES as if he's DEANNA's HOUSEKEEPER when PICARD shows up to visit him.

thinking

Good point, though I wonder if it's just the production team going overboard in showing that they're not just casting white guys.

BTW, I do most of the cooking at Château LeMarchand and I don't feel like a housekeeper!

I just have a set of Judge stainless steel saucepans (3 sizes + milk + frying) that my folks gave me when I moved out. Still going strong many years later though, despite my best efforts to "prove" it, the frying pan is kinda useless - I have a Tefal non-stick one.

Also have a wok (so old that it came from an oriental store as they weren't available elsewhere at the time) and a 2-tier steamer which needs replacing soon as the bottom is starting to warp away from the base..

The only "luxury" tools I've bought are a small selection of ceramic knives as I cba to sharpen knives. Even they were all bought on offer!

As Bonus Daughter #2 still lives with us and cooks her own lunch (she works from home) and fails to grasp concepts like "a metal spatula will scrape the non-stick coating off a pan", the Judge pans must be pretty good to have survived her!

@Invidia said:

It also sounds like NEX is a pretty good cook too. He knows all about how to use SPICES and things like that.

And NOTE the way most of the FAMOUS CHEFS are also MALES.

Which also makes one WONDER how WOMEN got stuck with the JOB of being the CHIEF COOK and HOUSEKEEPER when MEN are also much better at it than they are???

thinking

Aside from the necessity-being-the-mother-of-invention reality of men being out doing other things while the women stayed home, in earlier times, one explanation is that it's another example of the double bell curve and varying distribution. With the "cooking-ability" distribution for women having a taller "hump" at the average or median point, while the scale for men doesn't go as high in number but extends further. Which means there are more "average" female cooks/chefs, but the curve tapers off more rapidly. On the other hand, there are fewer "average" male cooks, but the share of "Exceptional" continues farther.

I looked for an illustration example, but couldn't find one before having to leave for errands.

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