No reason they shouldn't work, whether that means just clicking on them or right-click and "save target as..."

They're not HD, but they are commercial free except for an occasional self-promoting bit added by Fox.

Hmm looks like you do have to go to the download "page" to get each one, rather than "save target as..."

@Nexus71 said:

I was talking about special interests groups (not all of them) in general who are with the aid of mass media are forcing their minority agendas upon us through tv and movies or this used the divert valid criticism on a bad product(You can't have failed noticing the whole fuss around Ghostbusters 2016 ,The Last Jedi and Discovery I hope)

The problem with the examples you've cited is that the Incel Army pounced on them and only after people pointed out that their main objection seemed to be "because too many women in positions of power" did they start trying to find other reasons why THIS IS THE WORST THING EVAH!!!

@wonder2wonder said:

Note: I expect that in the future the written and spoken languages will also be changed by excluding and replacing any words identifying gender (e.g. he/she, man/woman, boy/girl, and so on).

I think we'll have a couple of decades (assuming Trump doesn't decide to nuke Mexico or something) of this sort of thing and then it will all calm down. People will get used to the fact that there are some people who don't fit the established mould(s) and those people won't feel the need to make such a fuss about themselves because people will be more accepting.

WHICH minority group is running amuck and forcing who to do what, now?

I think someone needs new glasses, or something.

I hope you realize that you asserting things, even in BOLD ALL CAPS, doesn't make them true.

Bathrooms/restrooms, for example, are designed around peoples' physical attributes, not what "gender" they may feel like on a certain day or a certain hour.

Things were a certain way for thousands of years. Now a small group is pushing to change them, in very radical ways. Even if you believe it's only one small group pushing back, that doesn't make THEM the ones that have "run amuck."

As Reagan said, The problem with MSNBC isn't that their ignorant, it's that they "know" so much that isn't so.

Wow you missed that reference too?

Well, MSNBC does explain a lot.

Another fail. No surprise.

Well, get back to me if you ever figure out the Reagan reference. But I won't be holding my breath.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/if-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-were-a-conservative/2019/01/24/8aa9bb58-1ffd-11e9-9145-3f74070bbdb9_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.bee79996c23c

If Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez were a conservative

By Marc A. Thiessen

January 24, 2019

If Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) were a conservative, all anyone would be talking about is how uninformed she is. She would be facing trick questions from reporters designed to expose her lack of knowledge, and brutal sketches on “Saturday Night Live” mocking her intelligence and fitness for office. Instead, SNL fawns over her, while CBS’s “Late Show” host Stephen Colbert — far from making jokes at her expense – eats ice cream with her and asks how many “f---s” she gives about her critics.

Boy, it’s good to be a socialist.

It’s not that there is a lack of material. This week, for example, Ocasio-Cortez declared that “the world is going to end in 12 years if we don’t address climate change.” She has said that $21 trillion in “Pentagon accounting errors” could pay for most of her massive $32 trillion Medicare-for-all plan — as if there were $21 trillion in unspent tax dollars sitting around in a Pentagon vault. She opined that “just last year we gave the military a $700 billion dollar budget increase, which they didn’t even ask for” — unaware, apparently, that the entire Pentagon budget is $716 billion. She wrongly claimed that Immigration and Customs Enforcement “is required to fill 34,000 beds with detainees every single night and that number has only been increasing since 2009” — when ICE is required only to have that number of beds available and that number has remained flat. She has declared that “unemployment is low because everyone has two jobs” — which is flat untrue. According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, there are only 6 million to 7 million Americans with two jobs and 148 million with just one.

Those are examples of ignorance. But she also appears dishonest. This week, she told Colbert that she has not been able to open a district office yet to handle constituent casework because of the federal government shutdown. “There’s a lot of things we can’t do as freshman members,” she said. “We can’t properly set up our district offices. We can’t get laptops delivered. We can’t start doing the work that we were elected here to do. . . . It takes the green stuff. And those workers are furloughed.” That’s wrong. Last September, Congress passed the 2019 Legislative Branch Appropriations bill, which funds congressional salaries and offices for the coming year. Ocasio-Cortez should know this because, unlike furloughed workers, she is getting paid. (If she doesn’t know this, what does that say about her?) The New York Times reports that the three other first-term members from New York have managed to open offices in their districts. A more likely explanation is that Ocasio-Cortez is spending her time building her national media profile instead of taking care of the constituents who sent her to Washington in the first place.

So where are the articles bemoaning “The incredible, thuggish stupidity of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez”? Where are the journalists trying to trip her up with questions like “Do you agree with the Bush Doctrine?” to see if she knows what it is? Nowhere to be found. To their credit, the fact-checkers have been on the case. PolitiFact gave her unemployment claim a “Pants on Fire” rating, and she is rapidly accumulating a large cache of Post Pinocchios — so much so that she claims to be the victim of “false equivalency + bias.” Give me a break. She told CBS’s “60 Minutes” that “being morally right” is more important than “being precisely, factually . . . correct.” Apparently, facts aren’t important as long as you support Big Government.

But facts are crucial, especially when you are proposing the largest increase in government spending in human history. Vox recently added up the cost of all her proposals — from Medicare-for-all, to free college, guaranteed jobs and the “Green New Deal.” The price tag was $42.5 trillion over the next decade — more than twice the current national debt. Sorry, you can’t pay for that through Pentagon accounting errors.

It is a tremendous testament to America that someone who was working as a bartender in a Mexican restaurant a year ago can throw their hat into the ring, unseat a 10-term member of Congress and be elected to the House of Representatives. It’s what makes this such an exceptional nation. And it is obvious that she has political talent. But that doesn’t excuse her from the responsibilities as a legislator to learn the facts and serve her constituents. Even Whoopi Goldberg, an Ocasio- Cortez supporter, warned her on “The View,” “I would encourage you to sit still for a minute and learn the job.”

That’s good advice. Once people decide you are ignorant, it’s hard to recover — just ask Sarah Palin or Dan Quayle. Of course, they were conservatives, so the standards are different.

You think that's one topic? Again, wow. And you think I skip around a lot? WOW.

@M. LeMarchand : The problem with the examples you've cited is that the Incel Army pounced on them and only after people pointed out that their main objection seemed to be "because too many women in positions of power" did they start trying to find other reasons why THIS IS THE WORST THING EVAH!!!

What examples? Ghostbusters 2016? The whole thing started when a prolific YouTube movie/series'games vlogger announced that he was not going to see and review the new GB2016 movie because he a huge fan of the original didn't feel the need to watch it because after seeing the trailer he thought that the movie would only disappoint him and that he didn't want to get his fondness for Ghostbusters tarnished by another disappointing pointless remake he also stressed that an all female cast was not the issue but still he gets a massive SJW shit storm over him calling him all things and foul ,and that he hates women,and offensive remarks about his wife while he explained intelligently why he was not going to watch the movie.And when the film bombed (and after leaks at Sony over how the producers had not agreed with Paul Feiggs' product and that expensive reshoots were needed even after Feigg had been warned several times that there were major issues with the movie) and when the public addressed the problems with movie (of which the majority was not related to the all female cast) but rather how bad and dull the acting was ,lousy humor(queef jokes and wontons in soup for fuck sake),how uninspired and lame the script was etc etc. The director and producers started throwing in the race/gender cart and that all who didn't like the movie was a misogynist ,racist,man babies etc etc (even though in some cases the one who gave criticism was female)without addressing the valid criticism.

One year later we get the same thing that after audiences saw The Last Jedi and did not share the praise of the critics a vast majority had issues with TLJ and when they vented these issues (dealing with matters such as pacing,tone,structure, story ,building up a premise in TFA and doing absolutely nothing with it( Snoke,Rey,Captain Phasma etc) ,Ignoring established cannon (Lei flying like Mary fucking Poppins,using Hyperdrive as weapon etc ),forced in SJW characters that are never explored ,aren't given any depth or explained what their motivations,or at least make them interesting or engaging are etc etc.Disney and Rian Johnson and Kathleen Kennedy in particular started to divert the valid criticism in the same manner as GB2016 did "the gender/race card".

Another year later Ocean's Eight bombed at the box office (with an all female cast) and they blamed men for that too even though probably not enough men were going to see the movie anyway because it didn't interest them.Then Star Trek Discovery happens and when Trekkies started almost similar criticism about cannon ,look,writing,bland and uninteresting characters etc as with TLJ the producers trump the race /gender card again again without addressing the real problems.And the dumbest thing of the the producers of DISC was bringing this in as criticism in a franchise that has a history of all inclusiveness and dealing with the issues in an intelligent and respectful manner.

And it seems they haven't learned again because Sony has plans for a new Terminator with an all female cast(oh boy) and when a photo of the new Terminator appeared a critic noted about the wonderful female cast and that the best things was that there were no men in a main roles!(well it is pretty obvious here )Well If you make several attempts in making a franchise reboot with an all or mostly female cast and most of them under perform if not fail at the box office. One does wonder that after having lost money on the other attempts why on Earth you would try doing it again in the same fashion again and again while knowing damn well that the movie is not going to make a profit.? The only reason why is because of an agenda that is being forced upon us.plus we get all kinds of weird shit because of all inclusiveness such as a King Arthur movie with blacks and Asians(there might have been blacks in Europe but they were not at the Court of King Arthur at least as far as I know.and Asian seem even more doubtful).And even though the producers know all this damn well they still try to use the race/gender card when their products fails While in the majority of cases it is just ,cliché uninspired boring or totally off kilter(in the case of franchises) writing.

One could argue that Wonder Woman and Black Panther were massive hits but for every Wonder Woman and Black Panther there are ten failures .But it at least it indicates that not all films with a female or black lead bomb but if you have a good script and fleshed out characters that are engaging and are not there because of an unnamed quota you can make these movies successful and for a wide range audience.But if you are doing it in the same fashion as GB2016,TLJ ,Oceans 8 and Discovery don't cry wolf when fans point this out to you,because you knew you could expect that backlash.

Judging from Seth MacFarlane's track record (Family Guy,American Dad,Ted 1&2 ) it seems like a joke that he would make about things having gone too far.

@Nexus71 said:

What examples? Ghostbusters 2016? The whole thing started when a prolific YouTube movie/series'games vlogger announced that he was not going to see and review the new GB2016 movie because he a huge fan of the original didn't feel the need to watch it because after seeing the trailer he thought that the movie would only disappoint him and that he didn't want to get his fondness for Ghostbusters tarnished by another disappointing pointless remake he also stressed that an all female cast was not the issue

That one started well before then, in fact pretty much as soon as the all-female cast was announced. As for TLJ, as previously stated the more rational (but largely mistaken) "reasons"were only formulated after the initial "women" complaints.

Nexus71,

An American philosopher Anais Nin said " We don't see things as they are... We see them as we are" I recommend you read a bit of her work. You seem to equate a works quality with whether or not it "bombed". That has little to do with intrinsic quality.

Everyone is entitled to their own tastes, choices, likes etc but to pretend that there is ONE way for art to exist is silly. Bearing in mind that people see things differently, have you ever considered the fact that for the longest time there has been just ONE approach to film, tv, science... Everything! That approach has been generally upper class, male, Eurocentric.... Do you realize that? Well there are other people on this globe! Indeed, as the world shrinks, we are bound to become more aware of the different tastes, POVS, experiences that make up the globe.

So please, lament all you want about the nostalgia of YOUR favorites; state your preference loudly and proudly; but do not dismiss the POVS of those you can not or will not understand. You know who gets to decide which terms are "offensive"? It's the people who are. OFFENDED!!! Not the person who can not or does not want to understand the insult!

There is Plato's. IDEAL REALM, where everything exists in its true form, sadly we humans cannot access this realm without the filters our birth, nurturing, intelligence etc allow us. We see. EVERTHING as we are, not as the thing truly is!

@Nexus71 said:

And it seems they haven't learned again because Sony has plans for a new Terminator with an all female cast(oh boy) and when a photo of the new Terminator appeared a critic noted about the wonderful female cast and that the best things was that there were no men in a main roles!(well it is pretty obvious here )Well If you make several attempts in making a franchise reboot with an all or mostly female cast and most of them under perform if not fail at the box office. One does wonder that after having lost money on the other attempts why on Earth you would try doing it again in the same fashion again and again while knowing damn well that the movie is not going to make a profit.? The only reason why is because of an agenda that is being forced upon us.plus we get all kinds of weird shit because of all inclusiveness such as a King Arthur movie with blacks and Asians(there might have been blacks in Europe but they were not at the Court of King Arthur at least as far as I know.and Asian seem even more doubtful).And even though the producers know all this damn well they still try to use the race/gender card when their products fails While in the majority of cases it is just ,cliché uninspired boring or totally off kilter(in the case of franchises) writing.

When you mentioned the inclusion of other ethnic (minority) groups in for example the Court of King Arthur, did you by chance see "Merlin (2008-2012)" where Guinevere is now an African servant of Morgana?

I've noticed everywhere that myths, legends, fairy tales, and even real history is being rewritten.

Here's an article about changes to the legend of King Arthur:

Black in Camelot: Race & Ethnicity in Arthurian Legend

That one started well before then, in fact pretty much as soon as the all-female cast was announced. As for TLJ, as previously stated the more rational (but largely mistaken) "reasons"were only formulated after the initial "women" complaints.

Sorry the point other than the female cast being the issue were made before Rian Johnson had his melt down on twitter and when you have criticism on how a character was written or acted you are not having criticism on the character because she is female but because of poor writing or bad acting which is something entirely different .Also it kind of puzzles me why having female leads should be a problem for male viewers,nobody complained that Ellen Ripley was female or Sarah Connor or Complained that Sisko was black or Janeway was female.The whole premise they don't like the new reboot movies because men hate women in lead roles is total bullshit it is just a standard reaction when a movie that has a large female or racial cast fails at the box office it is easier to call out those that have genuine criticism being racist man pigs than writing a good script or cast actors that have the ability to emote rather than being bland or forced into a story in a very obvious manner.And when you start making these same accusations about fans of the Star Trek franchise who have genuine criticism (unrelated to matters of race or gender)then it obviously shows that the producers don't know anything about the Star Trek franchise or Star Trek lore and the all inclusive message the show always had (yes even in TOS).And most certainly from the same head of production that was largely responsible for ENT being cancelled a decade earlier.

@Thespear said:

Nexus71,

An American philosopher Anais Nin said " We don't see things as they are... We see them as we are" I recommend you read a bit of her work. You seem to equate a works quality with whether or not it "bombed". That has little to do with intrinsic quality.

Everyone is entitled to their own tastes, choices, likes etc but to pretend that there is ONE way for art to exist is silly. Bearing in mind that people see things differently, have you ever considered the fact that for the longest time there has been just ONE approach to film, tv, science... Everything! That approach has been generally upper class, male, Eurocentric.... Do you realize that? Well there are other people on this globe! Indeed, as the world shrinks, we are bound to become more aware of the different tastes, POVS, experiences that make up the globe.

So please, lament all you want about the nostalgia of YOUR favorites; state your preference loudly and proudly; but do not dismiss the POVS of those you can not or will not understand. You know who gets to decide which terms are "offensive"? It's the people who are. OFFENDED!!! Not the person who can not or does not want to understand the insult!

There is Plato's. IDEAL REALM, where everything exists in its true form, sadly we humans cannot access this realm without the filters our birth, nurturing, intelligence etc allow us. We see. EVERTHING as we are, not as the thing truly is!

That's right, all those different people rushed out to buy tickets when the movies "about/for THEM" were in theaters, and making those movies the huge successes they "obviously" "were."

Wait. What?