Star Wars: The Clone Wars is not a similar case. The cancellation took place between 2 seasons.
The cancellation took place after the episodes were already produced, so it is similar. Considering the episodes were already produced, that means the show canceled early, halfway through production on season 6.
A cancellation at the end of a season is not an early cancellation, even if episodes of a new seasons were already produced.
They are not special episodes, they are the 2nd part of season 1. If you are going to do anythign weird with the episodes they should be down as Season 2, not Season 00.
But this would also be wrong as they are actually episodes 7 to 12 of season 1.
Star Wars: The Clone Wars is not a similar case. The cancellation took place between 2 seasons.
The cancellation took place after the episodes were already produced, so it is similar. Considering the episodes were already produced, that means the show canceled early, halfway through production on season 6.
A cancellation at the end of a season is not an early cancellation, even if episodes of a new seasons were already produced.
"Early Cancellation
When a television series is cancelled and prematurely pulled off the air before the end of a season, the first thing you should do is remove the air dates from any unaired episodes. These episodes might be burn off on the original network at a later date. If the remaining episodes are not broadcast on the original network and/or are only released digitally, they will be moved to the Specials. For examples see Powerless or Don't Trust the B---- in Apartment 23. "
These episodes were broadcast OTA on Tubi. End of discussion. Verdict: Not Specials
So all 12 episodes are going to be availabe on Tubi and Roku. But the last 6 episodes are "Specials".
Because that makes so much sense. And as far as I was aware they were boradcast over the air, I dont live in america so I cant say if Tubi is an actual chanel or not but someone posted the air dates on a reddit thread:
They probably did release the episodes but you had to catch them live since they aren't on demand.
The Nevers Episode 7 “It’s a Good Day” airs at 2:38 PM ET on Tuesday, February 14
The Nevers Episode 8 “I Don’t Know Enough About You” airs at 3:46 PM ET on Tuesday, February 14
The Nevers Episode 9 “Fever” airs at 4:47 PM ET on Tuesday, February 14
The Nevers Episode 10 “Alright, Okay, You Win” airs at 2:40 PM ET on Wednesday, February 15
The Nevers Episode 11 “Ain’t We Got Fun” airs at 3:45 PM ET on Wednesday, February 15
The Nevers Episode 12 “I’ll Be Seeing You” airs at 4:50 PM ET on Wednesday, February 15
These episodes were broadcast OTA on Tubi. End of discussion.
Verdict: Not Specials
Tubi is a digital network. So, they should be in specials.
that made so much sense 🤷♂️
A difference that makes no difference is no difference. So Tubi is a digital network, but they were broadcast live and arent available for streaming. So technically a digital release, but actually broadcast. NOT SPECIAL!!!
And they are getting a full release on Roku, all 12 episodes of Season 1 will be available on Roku. NOT SPECIAL!!!
I second that. Listing them as specials do not have any advantages, whereas listing them as regular episodes has only one downside - it will appear as if they were aired on HBO. But you will have a proper episode type and number, correct cast appearance count (now they all have 6 episodes instead of 12), and correct crew appearances (you can't see any directors or writers for episodes 7-12 on the cast&crew page).
For example, you don't list episodes 12-14 of Firefly as specials, despite that they were not aired on TV during the initial broadcast. They are listed in season 1, with airdates from another network (and another country I believe).
I read again the early cancellation rule, and it appears that, due to the simple fact that they air on a different network, they should be listed in the Specials season. It is not even limited to a digital broadcast.
And yet they are still not special episodes. I think in 2023 the concept of uncancellation and flexibility over the special designation should be respected.
Honestly, the early cancellation rule seems to have no benefit as far as I can tell. Even for the examples given in the description, Don't Trust the B and Powerless, I see no benefit in labeling the final episodes that way. It's simply misinformation.
Reply by superboy97
on February 18, 2023 at 4:26 AM
A cancellation at the end of a season is not an early cancellation, even if episodes of a new seasons were already produced.
Reply by henryjfry
on February 18, 2023 at 4:30 AM
And being broadcast on TV is not a digital relase.
https://bleedingcool.com/tv/the-nevers-joss-whedon-series-unaired-6-episodes-set-for-roku-tubi/
They are not special episodes, they are the 2nd part of season 1. If you are going to do anythign weird with the episodes they should be down as Season 2, not Season 00.
But this would also be wrong as they are actually episodes 7 to 12 of season 1.
Reply by henryjfry
on February 18, 2023 at 4:31 AM
I mean whats the problem with making the fix here? Like why do you personally care that this shows metadata not be correct?
Reply by henryjfry
on February 18, 2023 at 4:33 AM
"Early Cancellation
When a television series is cancelled and prematurely pulled off the air before the end of a season, the first thing you should do is remove the air dates from any unaired episodes. These episodes might be burn off on the original network at a later date. If the remaining episodes are not broadcast on the original network and/or are only released digitally, they will be moved to the Specials. For examples see Powerless or Don't Trust the B---- in Apartment 23. "
These episodes were broadcast OTA on Tubi. End of discussion. Verdict: Not Specials
Reply by Vassilis Con.
on February 18, 2023 at 4:35 AM
For the love of God, MODs stop being so stubborn, this is not a measurement of who has right and who is in charge of the site.
Listen to your users. These
are
not
Specials
period
Reply by superboy97
on February 18, 2023 at 4:36 AM
Tubi is a digital network. So, they should be in specials.
Reply by henryjfry
on February 18, 2023 at 4:37 AM
So all 12 episodes are going to be availabe on Tubi and Roku. But the last 6 episodes are "Specials".
Because that makes so much sense. And as far as I was aware they were boradcast over the air, I dont live in america so I cant say if Tubi is an actual chanel or not but someone posted the air dates on a reddit thread:
They probably did release the episodes but you had to catch them live since they aren't on demand.
The Nevers Episode 7 “It’s a Good Day” airs at 2:38 PM ET on Tuesday, February 14
The Nevers Episode 8 “I Don’t Know Enough About You” airs at 3:46 PM ET on Tuesday, February 14
The Nevers Episode 9 “Fever” airs at 4:47 PM ET on Tuesday, February 14
The Nevers Episode 10 “Alright, Okay, You Win” airs at 2:40 PM ET on Wednesday, February 15
The Nevers Episode 11 “Ain’t We Got Fun” airs at 3:45 PM ET on Wednesday, February 15
The Nevers Episode 12 “I’ll Be Seeing You” airs at 4:50 PM ET on Wednesday, February 15
Next time you can watch them is on March 1-3.
Reply by henryjfry
on February 18, 2023 at 4:38 AM
I mean do you personally want the metadata for this show to be wrong?
Reply by henryjfry
on February 18, 2023 at 4:41 AM
And also these days everything is technically a digital network, thats just an asinine comment.
Reply by Vassilis Con.
on February 18, 2023 at 4:42 AM
that made so much sense 🤷♂️
Reply by henryjfry
on February 18, 2023 at 4:44 AM
A difference that makes no difference is no difference. So Tubi is a digital network, but they were broadcast live and arent available for streaming. So technically a digital release, but actually broadcast. NOT SPECIAL!!!
And they are getting a full release on Roku, all 12 episodes of Season 1 will be available on Roku. NOT SPECIAL!!!
Reply by henryjfry
on February 18, 2023 at 5:20 AM
See: https://www.themoviedb.org/tv/80828-the-nevers/discuss/63daecf29e4586007e5cf536
Reply by superboy97
on February 18, 2023 at 8:34 AM
I read again the early cancellation rule, and it appears that, due to the simple fact that they air on a different network, they should be listed in the Specials season. It is not even limited to a digital broadcast.
Reply by henryjfry
on February 18, 2023 at 8:57 AM
And yet they are still not special episodes. I think in 2023 the concept of uncancellation and flexibility over the special designation should be respected.
Reply by morphinapg
on February 18, 2023 at 8:58 AM
Honestly, the early cancellation rule seems to have no benefit as far as I can tell. Even for the examples given in the description, Don't Trust the B and Powerless, I see no benefit in labeling the final episodes that way. It's simply misinformation.