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Why Part 2 is in Specials ?
posted by Vassilis Con.STAFFMOD on February 12, 2023 at 5:10 PM
Its a continuation of season one, the rest of the show, 6 episodes
Reply by superboy97
on February 13, 2023 at 2:30 AM
Because they weren't broadcasted during the first run of the series on HBO.
As indicated here in our rules about "Early cancellation", if the episodes didn't air on the original network and are only released digitally, they should be listed in the specials season.
Reply by herto
on February 16, 2023 at 6:41 AM
honestly, it's stupid as hell, 'cause many users, I suggest, using trakt and trakt (God knows Why) using your service for TV-Shows. And while using it for TV-Shows I, for one, may never know that final episodes of Nevers available to watch, cause "Specials" didn't shown on main page of trakt. So duh =\
Plus like examples in FAQ this TV Show too on wiki page indicates, that FIRST season consist of 12 episodes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Nevers
Reply by superboy97
on February 16, 2023 at 12:54 PM
We apply our rules.
Reply by Vassilis Con.
on February 16, 2023 at 3:41 PM
Yes i agree , you apply the rules But sometimes rules are wrong or need of adjustment and this is one of this time. As per wiki and per manymany other sites the show consists for two parts part 1 six episodes part 2 six episodes. That was from the beginning of the show. There are not special episodes, there are episodes streaming on a different platform. Nothing special about them.
Reply by morphinapg
on February 18, 2023 at 5:29 PM
The new episodes weren't released digitally. There's no way to buy or stream them on demand. They aired live in a marathon on tubi. The show was canceled by the original network, yes, but it was picked up by tubi, who aired the remaining episodes.
Reply by superboy97
on February 18, 2023 at 5:31 PM
Tubi is a digital network.
Reply by morphinapg
on February 18, 2023 at 5:38 PM
What does that matter? The episodes have air dates and times. Regardless of the transmission method, they were aired on a TV channel.
Also, "released digitally" typically means for pay on demand.
Reply by superboy97
on February 18, 2023 at 5:39 PM
This is considered as a digital release.
Reply by morphinapg
on February 18, 2023 at 6:01 PM
Again, regardless of your definition of digital release, they were episodes of the first season that were aired on a TV network, with air dates and times. The show was literally picked up by a new network which aired new episodes.
A good example of something very similar might be Star Wars: The Clone Wars. The episodes listed as Season 6 were episodes that were produced by Cartoon Network before the show was canceled. They didn't have a full season of episodes done, but Netflix bought the rights to the episodes that were finished before the show was canceled and aired those. Same thing Tubi did with The Nevers, only Netflix actually released those episodes on demand while Tubi just aired these new episodes of The Nevers live during a marathon of the full season. Because they're part of season 1.
If there's ever an actual digital or home release, these episodes will be marketed as episodes 7-12 of season 1.
Reply by henryjfry
on February 18, 2023 at 6:05 PM
The Nevers Season 1 Part 2 episodes 7 to 12 will be Airing on Roku in Spring 2023.
So they will be getting an actual release, therefore not "Specials", so please amend your meta data accordingly.
Reply by superboy97
on February 18, 2023 at 6:08 PM
The early cancellation rule should be applied.
Star Wars: The Clone Wars is not a similar case. The cancellation took place between 2 seasons.
They will get a digital release. So, the rule should be applied.
Reply by henryjfry
on February 18, 2023 at 6:09 PM
Sure it is, the cancellation took place before the 2nd part of Season 1 could be released.
Reply by Vassilis Con.
on February 18, 2023 at 6:11 PM
Why you refuse to accept the logic on this! Apparently, and according to all other sites and wiki, and official show there are two parts part 1 6 episodes part 2 6 episodes. For real you consider that the "early cancellation" rule is flawless and no exception should be made.
Make a poll, ask your users, read the replies. Having the 6 episodes on "specials" is ridiculous.
Reply by henryjfry
on February 18, 2023 at 6:12 PM
Yep, are they special episodes? No, they were produced as part 2 of season 1. End of disucssion.
Only the sith deal in absolutes.
Reply by morphinapg
on February 18, 2023 at 6:21 PM
The cancellation took place after the episodes were already produced, so it is similar. Considering the episodes were already produced, that means the show canceled early, halfway through production on season 6.
And also, the way The Nevers was split up, both in production and release, was effectively the same as two different seasons. Two different showrunners, filmed at different times, marketed as "part 1" and "part 2", and originally planned to be released at least a year apart.
The main reason you seem to have for this rule is that a different company aired the episodes than produced them, after the show was canceled. That's what happened with Clone Wars and that's what happened with The Nevers. Why you would even have a rule like this, I have no clue. Any episodes that are marketed as part of the season should be accurately listed here as part of the season, regardless of how those episodes are released. Doubly so for episodes that actually have air dates and times. The episodes have season and episode numbers, and it is literally inaccurate to list them as specials.