Anything? The remaining episodes premiere in 3 days https://tvline.com/lists/the-nevers-release-date-season-1-new-episodes-tubi/

I asked about this when I saw the initial article and it was decided that since it's an early cancellation as HBO still had 6 episodes left to air, the episodes should be added to the Specials season.

Additionally, while your second link says the episodes will air on Tubi, it looks like they will only air on the recently-launched WB TV Watchlist channel at predetermined times and won't be available to watch on-demand.

Season 1 episodes 7 to 12 were produced as actual episodes, therefore they are not specials. Any other designation will result in incorrect metadata for this show. Because these episodes were not procuded as special episodes designating them as such is an error.

They will be availabe on Roku in spring 2023: https://bleedingcool.com/tv/the-nevers-joss-whedon-series-unaired-6-episodes-set-for-roku-tubi/

I second that. Listing them as specials do not have any advantages, whereas listing them as regular episodes has only one downside - it will appear as if they were aired on HBO. But you will have a proper episode type and number, correct cast appearance count (now they all have 6 episodes instead of 12), and correct crew appearances (you can't see any directors or writers for episodes 7-12 on the cast&crew page).

For example, you don't list episodes 12-14 of Firefly as specials, despite that they were not aired on TV during the initial broadcast. They are listed in season 1, with airdates from another network (and another country I believe).

@shotfirer said:

I second that. Listing them as specials do not have any advantages, whereas listing them as regular episodes has only one downside - it will appear as if they were aired on HBO. But you will have a proper episode type and number, correct cast appearance count (now they all have 6 episodes instead of 12), and correct crew appearances (you can't see any directors or writers for episodes 7-12 on the cast&crew page).

For example, you don't list episodes 12-14 of Firefly as specials, despite that they were not aired on TV during the initial broadcast. They are listed in season 1, with airdates from another network (and another country I believe).

That's a great example

@raze464 said:

I asked about this when I saw the initial article and it was decided that since it's an early cancellation as HBO still had 6 episodes left to air, the episodes should be added to the Specials season.

Additionally, while your second link says the episodes will air on Tubi, it looks like they will only air on the recently-launched WB TV Watchlist channel at predetermined times and won't be available to watch on-demand.

Can you please help get this fixed? These are clearly produced as actual episodes of the show. They are marketed and released as episodes and having them in the specials section is messing up the metadata. From the thread and the report threads, it's clear that the community wants this fixed. Please help us. Thank you.

@shotfirer said:

I second that. Listing them as specials do not have any advantages, whereas listing them as regular episodes has only one downside - it will appear as if they were aired on HBO. But you will have a proper episode type and number, correct cast appearance count (now they all have 6 episodes instead of 12), and correct crew appearances (you can't see any directors or writers for episodes 7-12 on the cast&crew page).

The rules hasn't been created by me. I should just apply them.

For example, you don't list episodes 12-14 of Firefly as specials, despite that they were not aired on TV during the initial broadcast. They are listed in season 1, with airdates from another network (and another country I believe).

I don't know this show. So, I will check it when I have some times next week.

And yet they are still not special episodes. I think in 2023 the concept of uncancellation and flexibility over the special designation should be respected.

@shotfirer said:

I second that. Listing them as specials do not have any advantages, whereas listing them as regular episodes has only one downside - it will appear as if they were aired on HBO. But you will have a proper episode type and number, correct cast appearance count (now they all have 6 episodes instead of 12), and correct crew appearances (you can't see any directors or writers for episodes 7-12 on the cast&crew page).

Listing regular episodes in the Specials season doesn't mean they're "specials," it just means they did not air on the original network after an early cancelation - https://www.themoviedb.org/bible/tv/59f743289251416e71000037. The Specials season can also be used for anything from blooper episodes, recap episodes, preview episodes, best of episodes, live TV specials, (un)aired pilots, unaired or blacklisted episodes, and some DVD bonus content.

Early Cancellation

When a television series is cancelled and prematurely pulled off the air before the end of a season, the first thing you should do is remove the air dates from any unaired episodes. These episodes might be burn off on the original network at a later date. If the remaining episodes are not broadcast on the original network and/or are only released digitally, they will be moved to the Specials. For examples see Powerless or Don't Trust the B---- in Apartment 23.

@shotfirer said:

For example, you don't list episodes 12-14 of Firefly as specials, despite that they were not aired on TV during the initial broadcast. They are listed in season 1, with airdates from another network (and another country I believe).

I did a quick check and it does seems that 3 episodes were left unaired after FOX canceled Firefly since this BBC page calls the UK airdates for "Trash," "The Message," and "Heart of Gold" the "World TV premiere." The air dates currently used for "Trash" and "The Message" are from the Sci-Fi Channel in the UK but I'm not sure where the June 23, 2003 date for "Heart of Gold" is from.

@raze464 said: I did a quick check and it does seems that 3 episodes were left unaired after FOX canceled Firefly since this BBC page calls the UK airdates for "Trash," "The Message," and "Heart of Gold" the "World TV premiere." The air dates currently used for "Trash" and "The Message" are from the Sci-Fi Channel in the UK but I'm not sure where the June 23, 2003 date for "Heart of Gold" is from.

So how come it works for one show, but can't be done for another? This is exactly the same situation, the only difference is the number of unaired episodes. Considering how the system treats special seasons, in terms of counting appearances etc. it is rather weird to put regular episodes there and expect that people won't complain about it. In the TV world, the term 'special' has a particular meaning, and an unaired episode is definitely not it. After all, the early cancellation with a later release of unaired episodes is a rather rare thing, so maybe the policy on this matter is worth reviewing. Because frankly, just blindly putting everything into specials is probably the worst solution.

@shotfirer said:

@raze464 said: I did a quick check and it does seems that 3 episodes were left unaired after FOX canceled Firefly since this BBC page calls the UK airdates for "Trash," "The Message," and "Heart of Gold" the "World TV premiere." The air dates currently used for "Trash" and "The Message" are from the Sci-Fi Channel in the UK but I'm not sure where the June 23, 2003 date for "Heart of Gold" is from.

So how come it works for one show, but can't be done for another?

Because it weren't spotted until now.

We can't actively monitor every series listed in our databse. We don't have enough time to do it. We only see the problems when they are reported to us or when we contribute data to a series.

The correction for this series will be done as soon as we have time to do it.

After all, the early cancellation with a later release of unaired episodes is a rather rare thing, so maybe the policy on this matter is worth reviewing.

This policy is inline with the policy applied for other kind of episodes not broadcasted by a network during the first run of a series.

For example, to take a French series that I know, as indicated in this report (I wasn't yet a moderator at the time of this report), some episodes of the French series "Hélène et les garçons" haven't been broadcasted by TF1 due their content, and have only been broadcasted in a later rerun of the series. These episodes are also listed in the specials.

In the TV world, the term 'special' has a particular meaning, and an unaired episode is definitely not it.

The term "special" has the signification given in the rules of each site. Our main definition of it is here.

@superboy97 said:

In the TV world, the term 'special' has a particular meaning, and an unaired episode is definitely not it.

The term "special" has the signification given in the rules of each site. Our main definition of it is here.

Yes, but these episodes originally (i.e. for the first time they were released) were broadcasted as part of a regular, numbered season. They were not released on DVD or something, they were aired as a continuation of the first season, as they were originally intended. As the quoted article says "in those cases, it should not be added to the special season here but, instead, to the season assigned to it by the network." Isn't that the case here?

@shotfirer said:

@superboy97 said:

In the TV world, the term 'special' has a particular meaning, and an unaired episode is definitely not it.

The term "special" has the signification given in the rules of each site. Our main definition of it is here.

Yes, but these episodes originally (i.e. for the first time they were released) were broadcasted as part of a regular, numbered season. They were not released on DVD or something, they were aired as a continuation of the first season, as they were originally intended. As the quoted article says "in those cases, it should not be added to the special season here but, instead, to the season assigned to it by the network." Isn't that the case here?

They weren't broadcasted as such during the original run of the series on HBO.

Originally should be understand as "during the original run of the series".

@superboy97 said: They weren't broadcasted as such during the original run of the series on HBO.

I really don't understand why this matters. Shows change networks all the time. That's what happened. It should be irrelevant if the original network canceled it and it was picked up by another, because that's usually why shows change networks. What should matter is labeling the episodes correctly. They are numbered episodes, as part of the season. That is the accurate way to label them.

The definition of specials appears to even specifically be about content that is not listed as a numbered episode as part of a season. These episodes are numbered episodes part of the season.

The way Firefly episodes were listed was correct. The way The Nevers episodes are listed is incorrect.

@morphinapg said:

@superboy97 said: They weren't broadcasted as such during the original run of the series on HBO.

I really don't understand why this matters. Shows change networks all the time. That's what happened. It should be irrelevant if the original network canceled it and it was picked up by another, because that's usually why shows change networks. What should matter is labeling the episodes correctly. They are numbered episodes, as part of the season. That is the accurate way to label them.

The move of a show is when the original broadcaster says : "I stop this show, but it will continue on another network".

The early cancellation of a show is when the original broadcaster just says : "I stop this show". Sometimes, the show is bought later by another network and broadcasted again, eventually with episodes not broadcasted the first time, but it isn't anymore the original run.

Here, we are in the second case.

The definition of specials appears to even specifically be about content that is not listed as a numbered episode as part of a season. These episodes are numbered episodes part of the season.

They haven't been broadcasted as numbered episodes during the original run of the season.

The way Firefly episodes were listed was correct. The way The Nevers episodes are listed is incorrect.

This is the reverse.